Moog Music Forum

I have a CP-251 and a VX-351 that I use with my Voyager. For anyone who doesn't have a VX-351, I strongly suggest getting one. I love all of the functionality that is added by both the VX-351 and the CP-251. However, there is something I noticed when patching.

The CP-251 gives you one 4-way multiple and the VX-351 gives you two 4-way multiples. So, with both units that gives you a total of three 4-way multiples. Now, there are 5 Moogerfooger effects. Basically the bottle neck is that I don't "need" another CP-251, but I do need more 4-way multiples. The idea of buying another CP-251 and getting only one 4-way multiple stinks (I know the added features of a second CP-251 are nothing to sneeze at).

So, here's my idea Why doesn't Moog design a CP-251 sized moogerfooger unit that has one LFO like the LFO from the CP-251 and six or eight 4-way multiples? The only red jack for an expression pedal would be the one for the LFO. That would give the one unit the ability to patch the triangle or square waves to the 4-way multiples which can control A LOT of Moogerfooger/Voyager CV parameters

Alternatively, Moog could use a single space 19" rack mount with a CP-251 style LFO laid horizontally and four of the 4-way multiples to make a less expensive yet still powerful Moogerfooger multiplier. I think it's important to keep the design simple since the VX-351 and the CP-251 already have all of the CV features.

or release the long awiated vco/vca module that everyone wants and throw in a few multis

they could have a range of cp sized units that all have different specialities as well as multis

the 251 being the basic unit to start off with.

i love mults. If you really want to get more, there are companies that sell 1/4" patchbays that can be set up as 4 way mults. These patchbays are pretty inexpensive and you could configure 12 4 way mults on one 48 point patchbay.

Hey, I'm all for more moogerfooger boxes. A new CP would be great. Mults, in my opinion, are too easy to get going on your own to wait for Moog to sell them to you.

ezratrice,

I know a patch bay is only $50, but it seems like this type of module wouldn't be that expensive either. I know it would cost more than a patch bay because of the Moog name and having the added LFO, but that extra LFO would help out a lot without having to get another CP-251.

...and nifty minimalist inline attenuators, built by moog music back at the dawn of time:

http://moogarchives.com/portapot.htm

if soldering is too much of a hassle, radio shack makes [or used to make] a 1/4" 'y' mult similar to the ones shown at the above website.
i have two of these, and they are in constant use with my moogerfooogers.

lx

newname,

Cool, I didn't think of RadioShack. I'll check that out. That port-a-pot is a neat gizmo. Moog ought to think about re-releasing both of them.

The Radio Shack trick is cheap, plus you get long cables out of the deal, which I find useful when you are using a MF LFO with a remote device. The patch bay method is practical, particularly if one has the MF's arranged rack style. I have my patch bay just beneath the CP-251, while 3 of my MF's reside above the patch bay (loaded with their patch points).

Another cheap, but effective, option is using a DOD 240 resistance mixer. The mixer is passive, so no batteries are needed, each channel simply has a resistor, pot and jack. No cable, but one has an amount pot for each of the four channels. Mine is over twenty years old, still works like new, but they still make them. Used, they go for 5-15 dollars but you have to deal with S&H . A friend just scored one after seeing how much I exploited the cheap box. I could go on and on about its potential uses, but it aint a Moog.....