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Hello all, I recently bought a slim phatty to use with my bass guitar. I'm using a sonuus B2M midi box in order to control the slim phatty but I am having some problems making them both work together. The slim phatty only receives about one note every 10 notes I play on the bass. It is unplayable at all. I've used the B2M on my other midi device with no problems so I've narrowed it down to the slim phatty itself. I have not gotten the slim phatty to work with the B2M. I plug my bass into the B2M. I plug a midi cable from the B2M to the midi in of the SP. The Audio out of the SP is going to my amplifier. I've also plugged in my casio keyboard (which has midi) from its midi out to the midi in of the SP with horrible results as well. It only received about one note for every 10 or so notes that I play on the keyboard. Can anyone help me out?

Also, I plug in my bass guitar into the audio in of the SP's and get no signal coming out of the slim phatty.

I'm going to take the B2M and my bass to a music store where they stock SP's and going to see if it is in fact it is SP or just my SP.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

I can't comment on the midi problem, but the audio in needs to have the gate opened. You can do this by plugging a 1/4" cable into the gate input this will open it so audio can pass through. You will not be able to use the envelopes this way though, but you can still modulate the filter with the lfo or an expression pedal.

I bought a Sonuus G2M earlier this year and tried to use it with my LP.
Never got it to work - not with guitar, not with bass. Completely useless thing (yes, I know it's monophonic).
I returned it to the store.

I tried plugging in a 1/4" into the "KB gate" of the SP with no success to get any audio out of my amplifier. Is this what you mean colorform2113? Where would the other side of the instrument cable be connected to?

Assar...you returned the slim phatty or the b2m? The B2M seems to work great on my beat to bleep 80s casio keyboard with tracking 100000000x better than on the SP. I've even tried to use my midi keyboard as a controller for the SP with crap results aswell.

I hope to go to guitar center or noisebug where they stock SP's tomorrow and test out their SP's. I'm gonna bring mine along too.

no1000 wrote:I tried plugging in a 1/4" into the "KB gate" of the SP with no success to get any audio out of my amplifier. Is this what you mean colorform2113?
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yes. Dummy plug to the gate input, bass into the audio input (may need to boost the signal to hear it)

Ok, now I get this constant sustained "note" I guess you could say...it doesn't go away going from preset to preset. My instrument level is still very low compared to this sustained note.

Bingo, turn the vco levels all the way down and increase the volume of your bass going into the sp, this will allow you to filter your bass. If the sonuus and sp would play nicely you could mix your bass with the vcos, and be able to use the envelopes on the filter and vca (remove the dummy plug for that, the midi should trigger the gate)

no1000 wrote:Assar...you returned the slim phatty or the b2m?

The Sonuus G2M, of course!
I will keep my Phatty 'til I die ...

heh yeah, I kinda figured.

Any recommendations for a midi keyboard controller for my SP (since the B2M is crap)?

Ok...the SP is just not for me. I'm a bass player not a keyboard player so if the b2m isn't working i'm selling the SP.

Anyone interested?? Message me

sorry forum mods if this is against the rules. I didn't know

Shame really. Shame that Moog is losing a customer and a shame that the B2M doesn't work as advertised (after seeing the NAMM videos, specifically the one with Bill Dickens running it through its paces). Likely the first few were made with top quality components then they got cheap and sent out to China, lack of calibration ensued and the rest is history.

Here's the video I'm talking about. (didn't they release a version 2 of the product?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Gfp-zFeZk

Don't worry. I'll be replacing the SP with a MF101 and a MF-102. I love moog stuff, it's just that I'm a bass player, not a keyboard player. I'm trying to give the SP another chance through since it sounds so freakin sick. Anyway to implement midi in my bass rig?

Not clue on the version 2 for bass but sonuus did release a version 2 for guitar. Nontheless, the B2M works great on my cheap ass yamaha keyboard. So, it's not the B2M.

Yeah guys

If the b2M works OK as a controller on another keyboard then there has got to be something wrong with HIS SP, the setup, OR all SP in general.

Now, since the SP can really only be played using a MIDI controller (keyboard or other) I'd expect there's not much to the setup.

Is it possible that the MIDI channels in/out are set up incorrectly? What have you all had to do to make SP work with MIDI?

Sorry, I'm a MIDI newb but as a bass player as well I'm planning to swap my kickass Little Phatty with a Slim here in the near future....

Regards,

Col. Monk