Question for Moog owners.

[EricK]

I think that among modular owners (they can all be found on muffwigler.com) the MOTM 440 filter is probably the best Moog sounding filter.

Don't let us talk you out of getting a Voyager. They are surely nice. A modular synthesizer is a whole different animal. Not everyone wants to mess with a modular though. They are not exactly live performance instruments (not that people don't take them on the road).

I love my Voyager. I am very spoiled by the knob-per-function interface. Once you start thinking about the modular interface, nothing else can really compare or is really sufficient.

But there's a lot that a Voyager offers that a modular doesn't.

However my modular dreams are very grande and the Voyager/Foogers will go a long way to fill the gaps until my system becomes fully independent.

If you are considering a modular though, you can save a little money by mounting them in portable cabinets, or even by using racks.

[Box]

i've had two switches installed, to switch of pwm on osc2 and/or three when needed.

How hard was that to do?

Thought about the Portable 22, only downside was no room to add the Ladder filter in conjunction with the standard filter. Still lot to think about. Voyager will still be a good bit less, unless someone were to be selling their Dot Com system.

[sunny pedaal]

i had rudi linhard do it, together with slewrateupgrade, aftertouch, memoryexpansion and some more things.
i had a signture voyager, so it needed "some upgrade"
i don't think the switches where very difficult, as long as you know what to do afcourse and have the scheme...
price was very modest

[Voltor07]

i had rudi linhard do it, together with slewrateupgrade, aftertouch, memoryexpansion and some more things.
i had a signture voyager, so it needed "some upgrade"
i don't think the switches where very difficult, as long as you know what to do afcourse and have the scheme...
price was very modest

You Europeans have it so easy. "Rudi, I want the aftertouch upgrade. Rudi, I want a switch."
Those of us in the States are all like, "Rudi, I have to spend $800 to ship my Voyager to Europe, what can you do for $400?"

[sunny pedaal]

yes we're very happy with rudi !
sometimes he can be "borrowed" but we prefer to keep him here most of the time

i think anybody working professionally on analog ( moog ) synth's should be able to do it.
i was happy to do it, indeed all pwm of or all on , was not my thing, now i can choose myself .
also the slewrate thing i really enjoy, sound has become more " direct "even .
for the rest it's a great synth indeed.

by the way , i wouldn't want to miss the extra memories and the great touchpath the voyager offers above the os version.

[Box]

As long as I have directions would be good to go. Considering the Performer is usually cheaper than the OS second hand, will probably end up with that if I end up with a Voyager. Still looking into the Dot Com systems. Lots of options. Going to look around YouTube etc for videos.

[Box]

Found some videos of the Dot Com, sounds really good.

Would pick up a Realistic(Moog) MG-1 for around $400. They're so basic though, afraid I'd end up frustrated with it.

[filtered]

They're so basic though, afraid I'd end up frustrated with it.

maybe a Prodigy, but not a MG1- you have noise, sample/hold, auto-trigger, etc..- plenty to be entertained and entertain with

[thealien666]

I had an MG-1 for over 30 years and I've never, at any time, felt frustrated with it. I've sold it only because it was in really bad shape in the end, and would have required many hours of restoration (removal of the dreaded disintegrating foam, oxidized switch contacts, missing plastic slider caps, defective divider chips, etc...). And instead of spending many hours on doing that, I preferred getting a brand new Voyager Old School.

Recently, a good friend of mine got his hands on an MG-1 for cheap, and restored it to like new condition. I went to see it after he was done, and was amazing both at the good job he had done, but also at the fact that I still enjoyed playing it. Like a pair of old comfortable slippers...

If you ever feel frustrated with an MG-1, because of lack of possibilities, then I would not recommend you buying a Minimoog D neither.

[EricK]

If you have your eyes on a Voyager or a modular, keep your eyes on the prize. The Voyager is tantalizing in a way that if you splurged on an impulse and got something you came across like the MG-1 or the Phatty....in the back of your mind you would still yearn for that Voyager/Modular.

Thats how I've been feeling about modular lately.

I've always tried to encourage musicians to shoot just slightly past their comfort zone. If they were interested in a 5 string bass, I'd suggest a 6 and state that after a year, they will wish they had that extra string. Get an instrument you know is going to take some time to grow into, and the Voyager is that. Don't spend 800 bucks on a Moog Satellite just for that Moog fixation and then stare at the sweetwater catalogs Moog section until you can afford that coveted Voyager.


Eric

[Box]

To be the honest, the ADS of the MiniMoog would frustrate me probably. I know, I should appreciate for what it can do. I do, and would. I didn't used to be this way, the longer I've played with synths the more I demand from a potential purchase. Just looking at videos of the MG-1, I'd get bored with it quickly. Why I'm seriously thinking I should go modular. Harder to exhaust the possibilities with one of those. Voyager I'd be happy with too. Guess bang for buck factor, what it really boils down to. This is where someone runs in and tell me to shut up then and just buy a VA. I still have plenty of time to think it over, waiting for the car to sell.

Eric you're right. Go big or not at all. Albeit, the Phatty I'd be ok with. I could get over the one knob/function I've been wanting. Just the annoying lack of built in noise as an audio source. Really if it wasn't for that I'd be all on it. I know, can use the CP-251. In my sick little world that equates to too much work. Preset memories, ah yes have to patch noise in... Maybe I'm just being too picky...

[djfood]

man pay attention with Moog you also pay for the legend and marketing if you have not a lot of money you better look at dave smith instruments like tetra and prophet
there is many more modulation parameters and it's polyphonic and you can have more functions like sequencing or some crazy functions for half the price of any moog's... !!!

Moog is very expensive and they don't give you a lot of things to do with they're monophonic synth you will never play chords or even harmonic music...
but for bass n lead it's the best for the rest you never can make it happend... and for just the price of a moogerfooger you can buy a dsi tetra or near the price so ... there is many company who built analog devices moog is just the most popular but you must pay for the marketing for the people in wall street who invest in the company and want to be paid
If you buy product from independant company you pay for the material not for the marketing and all those advertising in magazines and all....
look at DSI, Omega or vintage stuff like roland, oberheim, yamaha, korg who make some crazy products you never find on a moog of today, ...
the little phatty have 5 or 6 parameters you can modulate there is 42 on the dave smith for half the price and you have aftretouch n sequencer and more more enveloppes, assign parameters ...
the LP have no velocity response they make a trick to play with volume but its far from a real velocity response... and the updates is long to come when you got a moog they don't make any evolution with the OS and firmware it's really

If you buy arturia plugins for 200$ you just need to put your output on a class A preamp and it's exactly the same sound and the peopele who listen music in mp3 never will see any difference, ...

[Box]

DSI Mopho was a consideration. Then I was like, "Well, if I'm going mono shouldn't it be Moog?" For THAT sound. The Mopho makes me irritated in other ways. The external power supply and the mod wheels are in the wrong spot, mainly no Xmod. I have my Roland analogue polys for chords and what not. Mainly wanting a mono for bass/lead. Bass on the Roland units is quite nice though, and leads can be good on the JX-8P. Maybe I'm putting too much stock into "the mono synth sound". All the Mopho's mod routing and features is tempting though. Now I'm getting distracted again.

[stiiiiiiive]

Mate, you have to TRY them.

Possibilities are a thing.

Sound is another.

And interface is the last one.

The fun factor will come mostly from the later and you cannot really know till you had your ahnds on the knobs.
I had an Evolver last year. I had been looking at it since it was released or almost. I sold ot half a year after. Not fun enough for having me wanting to play with it. The Nord Lead, conversely, is a way more simple instrument but the interface suits me. The Phatty seduced me by surprise in a shop while I was not even planning to get one.

Nothing's worth a trial.

[Voltor07]

Eric you're right. Go big or not at all. Albeit, the Phatty I'd be ok with. I could get over the one knob/function I've been wanting. Just the annoying lack of built in noise as an audio source. Really if it wasn't for that I'd be all on it. I know, can use the CP-251. In my sick little world that equates to too much work. Preset memories, ah yes have to patch noise in... Maybe I'm just being too picky...

I'm confused...you talk about the CP-251 being too much work, yet previously you were thinking dot com. Hate to say it, but a modular is WAY more work than using a CP-251 with an LP.