Suggestion for the next OS update

elanmak · Post by **elanmak** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:49 am

more INTENSE overload

DeFrag · Post by **DeFrag** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:38 am

elanmak wrote:more INTENSE overload

I 2nd that motion.

cl516 · Post by **cl516** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:50 pm

does anyone know if we're getting room to save more presets?

sorry if it's been asked before, i haven't had time to purr roos the whole thread.

Moomin · Post by **Moomin** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:47 pm

I would like to get update that let me use PWM on one oscillator only (and an arpeggiator

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rachel · Post by **rachel** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:45 am

Can we please have the ability to name patches in mixed case?

The LP's Alphanumeric display only displays A-Z & 0-9. Even my 1980's Kawai K1r
can do A-Z, a-z, 0-9, plus all the curses `~!@#$%^&*()+-"' and a Yen.

You know how on the Internet, "IF YOU TALK IN CAPS YOU'RE SHOUTING"?
Let's not make the Phatty like that, but actually be "sensitive...", "Well Spoken" and
able to "@$&#%/" like a trooper. Not mention "***The Best***" , "BoUnCy" "sonic BOOOM"
and of course "Money $hot".

You get the idea.....

rachel

MarkM · Post by **MarkM** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:53 am

An arp and/or sequencer would be great.

Moomin · Post by **Moomin** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:01 am

rachel wrote:Can we please have the ability to name patches in mixed case?

The LP's Alphanumeric display only displays A-Z & 0-9. Even my 1980's Kawai K1r
can do A-Z, a-z, 0-9, plus all the curses `~!@#$%^&*()+-"' and a Yen.

You know how on the Internet, "IF YOU TALK IN CAPS YOU'RE SHOUTING"?
Let's not make the Phatty like that, but actually be "sensitive...", "Well Spoken" and
able to "@$&#%/" like a trooper. Not mention "***The Best***" , "BoUnCy" "sonic BOOOM"
and of course "Money $hot".

You get the idea.....

rachel

Great idea. It looks so much better IMO.

denoiser · Post by **denoiser** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:55 am

Very nice idea, rachel. I know a bit about how LCDs work and it should be really easy to implement

Besides this I would like to suggest the posibility to change between the different types of chars (let's say upper and lower case, numbers and special) by clicking on the data pot to do the search faster. Now, when pushing the pot, the cursor moves to the last position, so nothing interesting.

Tangsonghe · Post by **Tangsonghe** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:11 am

Maybe this is the place to tout loopable envelopes......

LOOPABLE ENVELOPES !!

On my other post only Rachel was enthusiastic and ckabdeef
only expressed preference for a syncable LFO

I'm getting desperate - don't make me build my own modulation
source as I'll be tempted to make a huge matrix with loads of
destinations and sculpt it in the shape of the Phatty. If I do that
my marriage will end so please, for now, add a chorus of approval
to the idea of loopable envelopes so that Moog adds loopable
envelopes to their next update and I can use the Phatty not only for
leads and basses but for very weird sounds and not have to carry
a modulation box around.

denoiser · Post by **denoiser** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:28 am

Loopable envelopes is a nice idea as well but, sadly, i don't think we'll see this kind of improvements because these are very connected to the hardware

I wish we could have the duophonic mode, the LFO syncable to the keys or linked to a midi clock, the mod destination or source to/from OSC1 only (to do real FM synthesis). But if they didn't think about any of these things at design time I doubt it will be even possible.

Another cool thing'd be to have 100% noise modulation on OSC2 and still be able to use the LFO. But it depends on how the modulation matrix works internally.

Anyway, I hope i'm wrong and we'll see the loopable envelopes 'cos every extra'll be very welcome

Tangsonghe · Post by **Tangsonghe** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:48 pm

Loopable envelopes is a nice idea as well but, sadly, i don't think we'll see this kind of improvements because these are very connected to the hardware

This is more like it! But I'm not suggesting an analogue style retrigger.
My idea is just to have a periodic gate signal.

My guess is that the envelopes are triggered by a midi command. I seem
to remember reading that the Phatty keyboard gives out midi only.
Does the Phatty's CPU handle everything, midi in and out included? If
yes then it is easy peasy to program it to send out the volume/filter trigger
in any pattern/timing one desires. The last two OS updates gave new
keyboard trigger options, suggesting that there is flexible computer control system for triggers in the Phatty.

This kind of retriggering is obviously a compromise. With pure analogue
retriggering, the period depends on the AD time. Here the period depends
on the gate period. You could argue that sending a gate from a sequencer
or into the gate CV in does the same thing. That's not the point, the point
is to have it as an onboard patch option. I wonder what the maximum
trigger period might be? Anything better than 20 Hz is useful in my opinion.

denoiser · Post by **denoiser** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:26 am

Some time ago I noticed that when doing Noise modulation on pitch, every time I was pushing a button the sound seemed to stack at certain frequency but not always at the same. My conclusion was that the CPU is involved somehow in the sampling process. When doing S+H at max frequency the effect was exactly the same. So, IMO, there's a chance that the LFO is triggering a CPU interrupt, otherwise I would like to know why the noise and the buttons are related to each other.

(That lapse was shortened by the last firmware update, I believe.)

I could be totally wrong, of course, but if it works the way I think retriggering the envelopes using the LFO should be a piece of cake. Well... maybe

denoiser · Post by **denoiser** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:42 pm

This is not a suggestion but a question. I own a Tribute and it has no option for "Volume Vel Sens", does the Stage have it?

I'm asking this because there's a parameter called "Volume Vel Sens" on Presets Genetics window of the Little Phatty Editor. I've been searching but find nothing about it on the Stage manuals.

Does anybody know anything about it? Will it be a feature of newer firmware versions? Or is it just a Stage thing? (I know it has midi volume control so...)

denoiser · Post by **denoiser** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:28 am

I think I've found a bug. When pressing the glide on/off button it sends the Portamento CC with value 0 when off and _always_ value 64 when on. Shoudn't it send the Glide Rate value when on?

Is this a bug? What do you think?

Amos · Post by **Amos** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:24 am

No, this is normal. Glide On or Off is a two-state parameter; it's like a switch. it's either on or it's off. 0 and 64 are the values which represent off and on for this parameter. Glide RATE is its own separate parameter; turning Glide OFF doesn't set the Glide Rate to zero; the rate is independent of whether glide is currently on or off. Glide Rate uses CC# 5.

Volume velocity sensitivity was a beta-feature that has never been enabled on any little phatty. I don't remember if the Tribute has the hardware to support it or not. The editor was originally programmed based on an early spec sheet for the LP, so this parameter must have snuck in to the Genetics page and been overlooked. It's not currently a feature of any Little Phatty OS. Maybe we can look at this again for OS Version 2.