Moog Music Forum

Subtronik wrote:If Moog makes a poly, there will be no competition.

Well said.

CTRLSHFT,


You read my mind... that is EXACTLY what I want to see in a Poly Moog. And I would pray for a RME version. If I they had something like that for that price point, I would be running to the store now.

CS,

I think you made a really good point about the price, which I believe has probably been the reason why Bob never thought a poly could be done.

See, I don't know about any of you, but I don't want to see Moog have to sacrifice quality simply to satisfy what definately is a demand for a polysynth. The Phatty was marketed to an intermediate crowd by having a more affordable price point. They could only really do this by using cheaper parts made overseas.


I honestly think that if Moog decided to make a poly that it would not cost anything comparable to what DSI or Alesis offers with the prophet/A6.

Depending on how many voices and Oscs/filters per voice, expecting it to be under 5k In my opinion is a pipedream. If this means that noone is going to buy it because noone wants to spend that much, then were not going to have a poly.

Keep in mind though Moog guitars initially cost 6000. THey filled orders, aparently enough to make a less expensive model. Also keep in mind that there were people out there (and on this forum) that bought Korg's Oaysis which cost 8K.

I think if Moog is going to do it, they need to do it right. If it has to be one big mutha with a big price tag, then thats what you get for expecting quality that is supposed to blow DSI out of the water.


With all of this being said, it occurs to me that while we may be expecting a polysynth, it just might be more feasible to expect a module instead.

EricK wrote: With all of this being said, it occurs to me that while we may be expecting a polysynth, it just might be more feasible to expect a module instead.

I'd be quite happy with that as well.

a voyager with expansion till 8 voice( nobody playing keys a bit , will be satisfied with 6 voice anymore), in an appropiate box with 5-7 oct keyboard.

that'll do

I'd be cool with a module.

And I could live with 6 voice polyphony too, although that would kinda rule real splitting/layering out of the equation like what's found on the Prophet.

If they did a keyboard, I'd be cool with a Phatty/T3 style interface and overall aesthetic. They certainly would look great together!!

Since it's going to be strictly an anlog machine, it might be great for it to have some really decent midi master controller capabilites like at least the Nord Stage. That way, I could bring it out on a gig and midi it up to a rompler for the rest of the sounds I would use.

Sonically, I have no problems whatsoever with the resolution and timing of the LFO's and envelopes of the Prophet '08. Would it really be the end of the world for Moog to incorporate some digitally controlled bits to keep the price down a bit as long as the signal path stays analog??

Finally, one last point: I think it's really important that we continue to have dialog on this topic so that we can express our ideas and needs. It could only help Moog to guage customer expectations and focus on what would be a massive undertaking. When I first saw the poll, there were only about 7 votes on it. There would certainly need to be more interest for Moog to justify even THINKING about taking such a chance.

I'm with the Memorymoog remake; I've been watching Jean Michel Jarre's Live In Your Living Room, and I have to say that his sounds really really cool!!

I say the poly would have to be able to fit at least a Little Phatty on top of it and be at least 61 keys, though I'd prefer 73...88 is pushing it a bit. Also, to make it under 12k USD and have 8 Voyager voices and wood sides.

I do not have the musical skill to justify such an expense. Even with my stellar ability to justify such purchases. If moog makes a poly it should help me with other equipment when I show the wife and tell her, look at what I'm not buying.

The Moog Guitar already has a circuit board with 6 analog Moog filters on it. Could be the heart of a 6 voice polyphonic synthesizer keyboard/module that could also hook up to the new MIDI version of the Moog Guitar.

As for making a polyphonic synthesizer with a flat top for stacking other keyboards - I don't think that makes sense. On a Rhodes piano, there is room because the physical requirements of the electro-acoustic design provide the space. But current electronics are getting smaller all the time, so it's not an elegant design solution to add space and weight for something that can be solved in other more portable ways, like keyboard stands. Also, shipping costs are rising, airline restrictions (and baggage checking fees) are getting more difficult to deal with, so designing something to be big when the actual components don't require it adds expense and weight without a corresponding benefit.

I know what the Constellation system was, but I don't understand why current Moog products would try to realize an old '70s design. For one thing, the Constellation was designed as a system. Current Moog products are separate entities, designed at different times with evolving technologies and ideas. I'd rather the Moog designers keep surprising us. I for one have not been disappointed by anything they've come up with, but have been pleasantly surprised every time.

Just give me honest Moog sound for under $3k and I'll be happy. I don't care if its chip-based or discrete, as long as the sound is there. 76 keys would be fine, and I would also want enough modulation routing to keep things interesting. Would prefer Phatty-style interface, and keep it as small & light in weight as possible.

Replacing my original post here with a HUGE "Thank You" to Admin! SO glad to see that the troll exterminator has finally arrived!

Yes superd2112, the Moog sound AND the Moog user experience through CV and other interface options for personalized and natural playing of the instruments.

Does anyone know if the Moog Guitar filter board also contains 6 VCAs to control the internal signal?

Also, there is nothing at all wrong with Constellation system concept, it just doesn't seem economically feasible with so many excellent options and competition these days.

Ooh, I hadn't thought of CV ins/outs - that would add to the fun!

Subtronik wrote:I'm willing to pay up to $4000 for a Moog Poly, but only if it'll do pads too.

Make sure to leave out the fifth if you're going to be playing more than triads. If I were you I'd invest more on learning music than buying more equipment.