Moog Music Forum

lushr wrote:I understand the desire for the display to show the setting of every knob, but this is a feature of the voyager and was never going to be a feature on the sub 37.

JazzMasta wrote:Here's my wish list so far for firmware updates:

1. There should be some way to select ’exact’ waveforms. If you know you want a square or sawtooth, the only way now is to listen and turn the knob until it sounds right. Maybe if you hold some button while turning the shape knobs, it snaps to fixed values (triangle, saw, square, pulse).

2. When a knob is turned, show current knob value by replacing the two patch name rows in the display with param name and value instead. Now the user can make exact adjustments to any knob. When the knob stops moving, the lcd switches back to show patch name after a second or two.

3. If you have loaded a preset and want to know the value for a certain knob, just hold (for example) the 'cursor' button and turn a knob - the display will know show the original/stored value of that knob. When you release the 'cursor' button, the knob goes back to work as usual (with the lcd showing the new value)

4. For faster naming of patches, maybe one could hold some button to constrain the available characters to only lowercase letters a-z. This way, turning the Fine tune knob will only scroll through 25 characters instead of 70+. Maybe it could even be limited to a-z by default, requiring an key press for the extra characters.

5. Firmware updates should be easier. It’s a whole procedure now, installing third party software and loading a series of sysex files. It should be just an app you download and run while having the instrument connected to USB. Swedish brand Clavia/Nord is a model of how it should be done in this case.

6. Show tempo for arp/sequencer in display

(7. Librarian/Editor for Mac/PC would be great, especially for naming/organizing presets)

JazzMasta wrote:5. Firmware updates should be easier. It’s a whole procedure now, installing third party software and loading a series of sysex files. It should be just an app you download and run while having the instrument connected to USB. Swedish brand Clavia/Nord is a model of how it should be done in this case.

JazzMasta wrote:Here's my wish list so far for firmware updates:

1. There should be some way to select ’exact’ waveforms. If you know you want a square or sawtooth, the only way now is to listen and turn the knob until it sounds right. Maybe if you hold some button while turning the shape knobs, it snaps to fixed values (triangle, saw, square, pulse).

2. When a knob is turned, show current knob value by replacing the two patch name rows in the display with param name and value instead. Now the user can make exact adjustments to any knob. When the knob stops moving, the lcd switches back to show patch name after a second or two.

3. If you have loaded a preset and want to know the value for a certain knob, just hold (for example) the 'cursor' button and turn a knob - the display will know show the original/stored value of that knob. When you release the 'cursor' button, the knob goes back to work as usual (with the lcd showing the new value)

4. For faster naming of patches, maybe one could hold some button to constrain the available characters to only lowercase letters a-z. This way, turning the Fine tune knob will only scroll through 25 characters instead of 70+. Maybe it could even be limited to a-z by default, requiring an key press for the extra characters.

5. Firmware updates should be easier. It’s a whole procedure now, installing third party software and loading a series of sysex files. It should be just an app you download and run while having the instrument connected to USB. Swedish brand Clavia/Nord is a model of how it should be done in this case.

6. Show tempo for arp/sequencer in display

(7. Librarian/Editor for Mac/PC would be great, especially for naming/organizing presets)

breun wrote: Distributing a firmware update as a sysex file means it can be sent from any platform that supports sending sysex data. Distributing firmware updates as applications for specific platforms means only platforms that can run those apps can be used to install the firmware update. I've been bitten before by an audio device that could only be updated via some updater app that only ran on Windows 95. Good luck getting that to work on your shiny new Mac in 2014 (maybe not impossible, but not a lot of fun).

If Moog would start providing update applications, I would suggest sticking with making available the raw sysex files as well. Because you never know who'll want to run that update in a few years time.

MacAquinas wrote:Amos,
Would it be possible to add a controller option Source similar to the Dave Smith " Slop" which simulates the unstable behavior of vintage VCO's ? I think that would be a very useful and exciting feature for achieving some Model-D sounds. Maybe it could be called Vintage or Unstable or even Model-D. Perhaps there is something already included that would approximate this effect which I have not discovered or properly understood.

Would anyone else here like to have that option?