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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:22 pm
by The Analog Organist
If you don't like it, don't buy it. The Tetra could have all sorts of uses. It could be used to add four more voices to the Prophet 08. This is a tremendous improvement for some of us. I'm especially looking forward to having six voices available in the stack mode, which will result in a huge sound.
It could be used as the brains of a four voice synthesizer. Sometimes it's useful - for set up/rig reasons - to have a synthesizer that has a removable control panel and a slim midi keyboard controller that can be placed in between two other keyboards. Again, this will be of help to me.
It could be used to build up a tremendous monophonic sound on the Prophet.
And for those of us who play pedals, it could also be used to drive a polyphonic pedalboard. You can play three notes at a time with your feet (the root of a triad, with the third and fifth an octave above), although it's more common to play no more than two - usually doubling an octave or adding a fifth for depth. You can also play the melody with a descant on a pedalboard if the sound source has the proper higher range. The Tetra would be perfect for these.
For all these purposes, it makes far more sense to designate only a module, rather than a whole space consuming keyboard synthesizer.
I can't see buying multiple Tetra's, but having just one would make some important improvements in a set up. A row of two or more of these modules would be just too complicated and cluttered. But as a less expensive option to buying a whole Prophet module, the Tetra is a fabulous pick. I can't wait for mine to arrive.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:48 pm
by Subtronik
I love any and all electronic music making gear.
I don't care if it sounds crap or limits me in anyway.
Anything that bleeps, chirps, growls or rumbles makes me happy.
I'm just addicted to electronically generated sound machines is all...
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Close up of the Tetra:
http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/66469_l.jpg
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:59 am
by Voltor07
If Moog came out with a similar thing to the Tetra, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! Integrate it with my LP, and I'd have a five-voice Moog!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:44 pm
by Portamental
Voltor07 wrote:Integrate it with my LP, and I'd have a five-voice Moog!

That's one combination i did not think about (although I use the Mopho with the LP sometimes).... Now I need one!
Now seriously, one question remains, the LP being a mono synth, will it transmit 5 keys pressed simultaneously through MIDI ?
Edit : There's one way to find out, i'll have the answer in a few
One more edit, 5 minutes later : Piece of cake. Did not even need a single change in utilities or something.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:14 pm
by CTRLSHFT
Portamental wrote:Voltor07 wrote:Integrate it with my LP, and I'd have a five-voice Moog!

That's one combination i did not think about (although I use the Mopho with the LP sometimes).... Now I need one!
Now seriously, one question remains, the LP being a mono synth, will it transmit 5 keys pressed simultaneously through MIDI ?
Edit : There's one way to find out, i'll have the answer in a few
One more edit, 5 minutes later : Piece of cake. Did not even need a single change in utilities or something.
Yeah the LP is monophonic but the keyboard can be used as a standard controller for other gear, poly or not.
I've been using mine to control my virus now and again.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:39 pm
by Sir Nose
I really like what I've read on the tetra. I can't wait to hear it. A seperate 16X4 sequencer on each voice each with a seperate out can make for a nice analog drum machine. $600 or less would have had me, at it's current price it'll have to wait. Novamusik has a pre-order deal of $50 off BTW.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:09 pm
by Portamental
The Mopho's sequencer (and I assume, the Tetr4's) was a bit short of what I expected. It's easy to use, and flexible allright. Now, while this may not be a consideration at all for most people, it will output any of it's four sequences to any of it's modulation destinations (45 in all) but not to a MIDI channel as notes.
What is sequenced in the Mopho (Tetr4) remains inside of it.
The more I think about it, I am gonna save that $1k (cdn) for the forthcoming Taurus 3 pedal. That I can really use. Personnal preference of course.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:39 pm
by Voltor07
I think everyone is failing to state the obvious, but I could be wrong.

Moog seems to be falling behind in the analog polyphony department. I think, at the very least, they need to build a box that contains the circuitry of four Little Phattys, costs no more than a Voyager, and has the foot print of a single Phatty. They could call it the Little Ph4tty.
This would of course be released alongside an 8 or 10 voice Megamoog that would have an insert for a Voyager and an insert within that insert for a Little Phatty.

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:09 am
by Sir Nose
Portamental wrote:
What is sequenced in the Mopho (Tetr4) remains inside of it.
Thanks for that piece of info. I don't think I read that before.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:24 pm
by The Analog Organist
Yes, Moog certainly is falling behind, having no polyphonic synthesizer. This is especially ridiculous, considering the enthusiasm and loyalty that Moog users feel towards the company. In other words, a 61-note nobby reasonably priced analog polysynth could hardly fail. Meanwhile, our tongues are hanging out at even the rumor of such an instrument.
Hey Moog, give us a polyphonic synthesizer! We promise to buy it!
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:15 pm
by CTRLSHFT
I think the polyphony apprehension is based on what it takes to create an analog poly w/out using filter chips and dcos.
For comparison take a look at prices of the Studio Electronics Omega series:
Omega 2 (Large Chassis) $2,399.00
OM4 Omega 4 Voice $3,199.00
OM6 Omega Six Voice $3,999.00
OM8 Omega Eight Voice $4,699.00
It's do-able, but discrete is expensive. I think an LP style chassis and 4-6 voice polyphony would be possible in a package around ~2k, but I guess we'll see what they come up with. It's gotta be a hot topic.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:49 pm
by Voltor07
CTRLSHFT wrote:I think the polyphony apprehension is based on what it takes to create an analog poly w/out using filter chips and dcos.
For comparison take a look at prices of the Studio Electronics Omega series:
Omega 2 (Large Chassis) $2,399.00
OM4 Omega 4 Voice $3,199.00
OM6 Omega Six Voice $3,999.00
OM8 Omega Eight Voice $4,699.00
It's do-able, but discrete is expensive. I think an LP style chassis and 4-6 voice polyphony would be possible in a package around ~2k, but I guess we'll see what they come up with. It's gotta be a hot topic.
$4700 for an eight voice? Pretty reasonable, IMO. Still, if Moog could come up with a self contained polysynth for about $8k, I'm sure there'd be a bunch of takers. I'd pay about two grand for a poly box type thing similar in design to the Quadr4.

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:00 pm
by CTRLSHFT
Voltor07 wrote:CTRLSHFT wrote:I think the polyphony apprehension is based on what it takes to create an analog poly w/out using filter chips and dcos.
For comparison take a look at prices of the Studio Electronics Omega series:
Omega 2 (Large Chassis) $2,399.00
OM4 Omega 4 Voice $3,199.00
OM6 Omega Six Voice $3,999.00
OM8 Omega Eight Voice $4,699.00
It's do-able, but discrete is expensive. I think an LP style chassis and 4-6 voice polyphony would be possible in a package around ~2k, but I guess we'll see what they come up with. It's gotta be a hot topic.
$4700 for an eight voice? Pretty reasonable, IMO. Still, if Moog could come up with a self contained polysynth for about $8k, I'm sure there'd be a bunch of takers. I'd pay about two grand for a poly box type thing similar in design to the Quadr4.

I don't think there would be many takers at $8k...they'd probably need to do what they did with the Taurus to get a census on how many takers they could get to reserve an order. There'd be a few, but not many.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:09 pm
by Bryan T
Personally, I'd probably pay $2K for an 8-voice analog synth. Something like a Little Phatty, but polyphonic.
Folks who are talking about $5K or $8K are in a different world than I am.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:31 pm
by gtivr6fan
Bryan T wrote:Personally, I'd probably pay $2K for an 8-voice analog synth. Something like a Little Phatty, but polyphonic.
Folks who are talking about $5K or $8K are in a different world than I am.
I think you mean "than the rest of us"
