Moog Music Forum

hi all - i have to say (and will probably get shot for it), i like both fish and hogarth eras for different reasons...listen to grendel, market square heroes and script/fugazi for the mm lines, but then again - probably one of my favourite tracks for feeling and depth is Easter...as you say, it's all down to taste and personal preference - it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.

I'm amazed noone has made any comment about Ayreon as yet - just for sheer volume of mm (and arp) usage - out of interest, Fish appears on one of his albums I believe, though I'd recommend listening to either fate of a dreamer or the human equation...if nothing else just from weirdness!

As for the filter portamento problem...i'd already made my mind up to go the model d line. It's true that no synth has been truly perfect in it's os, although for the price and the mass of developement experience, you'd think this would have been in the early drawing board requirements.

Leigh

Mal,

yes I was refering to the album as a whole.

This gets more and more interesting as it goes along, as you now say you actually like Holidays in Eden. Many people felt Marillion sold out with this album, and it is certainly their most commercial. However, the reason for this was pressure from EMI for the band to go in this direction (quite some irony, when you consider how little publicity the record label provided for three singles, which could and, indeed, should have charted much higher).

After this debacle the band decided to react with a return to the concept album, and Brave was the result. To me, it is their most complete album, and whenever I'm asked to name my favourite, it is always this one from the Hogarth era, and Script from the Fish era. I guess it's that matter of taste, yet again!

With regard to the songs on Holidays, they were, in fact, all written by Steve Hogarth, with additional work by John Helmer, as opposed to already being there, prior to him joining the band.

Marillion always say that all their new albums are a reaction to the previous one, so let's hope for some more extensive keyboard work from Mark on number fourteen.

And caliburn, these days you can get shot for admitting that you like Marillion, let alone both eras! Sod the unbelievers, that's what I say.

Hope you all don't mind me saying.....but this conversation went way out of Voyager territory quite early on.

Kevin Bowden

Bedfordshire
UK

Hey Unknown

You sound like you are well into it . . . my points always come from a keyboard point of view, I don't know, or care what album did better then another as my interest in Marillion came squarely from Marks great playing . . with that gone there wasn't /isn't much to keep me listening.

If the music had continued in a similar fashion after Fish left i would still have been into it, for me it had little to do with the singer but in my humble opinion the sound changed, got soft and more pop and lost all the prog rock sound (which was probably a good thing in the early nineties).

I listened to Brave and Holidays in Eden last night again and coming into it after 10 years of not hearing it I enjoyed Holidays in Eden better, probably because it is more commercial sounding . . . Brave just made me want to kill myself (or at least go directly to sleep!).

I went through the same thing with Rush some years ago . . . the last 10 albums have sounded bland to me . . . when I think about it, it's down to the fact that keyboards have not featured very heavily since the late 80's in these bands and I guess I bore quickly of guitar bands?

As this is a moog forum . . long live Keith and Rick for sticking with it and long live Script, Fugazi, misplaced childhood and even clutching at straws!

Mal

(you'll have to prize my model D from my cold dead hands)

Yes, okay it is a Voyager Forum, so that being the case, has anyone heard any comments by Wendy Carlos on said machine? It would be great if she produced a collection of sounds for it.

Also, does anyone have the Ultimate Collection, by ELP? I'm familiar with very little of their work, ie. Fanfare for the Common Man, and... that's about it, apart from I Believe in Father Christmas, by Greg Lake. I like both of these and would like to hear more, so is this album a worthy introduction?

I wonder if Mark Kelly will buy a Voyager?

Sheesh.....you lot.....talk about an attempt at 'back-pedalling' a fixed-wheel cycle

How long is it going to be before we hear 'virtuoso' performances using the Voyager anyway (or even be able to talk in a similar fashion but referring to the Voyager as opposed to the Model D) ?

It's not like there's a million people trying to use this forum . .

The Unknown . . email me if you want to talk about other stuff, only slightly moog related, as we don't want to upset anyone.

mal@mee3d.com

Mal, you obviously haven't had any 'pointed' emails directly from Steve D suggesting/requesting proper forum use


PS - I haven't got the time to be upset. I spend far too much of my time with my tongue in my cheek.....chewing.....gently.....and.....slowly

mal,

I certainly will e-mail you, as there are a few more things I would like to discuss.

Kevin, I think you make a valid point about virtuoso performances with the Voyager. It can only be a matter of time before someone does something mindblowing - maybe it will be someone on this Forum?