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Actually it has blue wheels. Maybe it was an after market upgrade.
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Just use tinypic.com....easy as pie...

For me it's all about the white wheels .... Am I alone on this one ?

Pogo wrote:For me it's all about the white wheels .... Am I alone on this one ?

Well, I'd rather have clear / gray / black wheels on a Voyager. But if it's a full-on Select Series model, I think I like Electric Blue the best.

White wheels look a bit... meh And on a Performer, blue wheels again a bit meh (I'd probably keep the LEDs off all the time)... There's one such example for sale (relatively) near me:


On a Model D, white wheels look nice, but clear wheels look even better, imho.

- CM

I like my Ash Lunar because I get the white wheels and white panel.

I had a performer and they had the clear (not frosted) electric blue wheels. THey were really harsh to the eyes. Mine now is frosted and its absolutely fantastic. No conplaints though Id love to be able to dim the wheels with the dimmer switch for the rest of the panel.

Eric

wooperman wrote:Direct patches do not sound even close a lot of times. Add in the different modulation busses and it's going to be quite a project.
But I am curious if this thing needs to be re-calibrated , or if they are just that different sounding for normal reasons.
Lemme know !!

Hello,

From which series is the programmable Vger?
You would do well to note the conditions under which the patches sound different.
For example, many of the earlier Vgers don't have the filter glide mod; that is, where the keyboard cv is routed through the slew generator that the oscillators use for glide.
The Signature, Performer, and possibly Anniversary editions didn't come stock with filter gide; it has to be done as a mod.
If you program a patch that uses glide on one of the newer series Vgers (i.e., OS, Select, EB) and compare it (using the same patch) with an older model without, you'll hear a difference.

You also may want to check the filter pole settings on the programmable version of Vger, as the
OS has four poles hard-wired, and the programmable Vgers allow you to select poles 1-4 for each filter.
These settings are buried in the menu, and if any one is different, the patch you're playing will have a difference in texture from the OS version.


Regards,


Lawrence

I guess I'm all about then og-ness of the white wheels

Hey this is probally a dumb question but is ther any difference in the cp-251 with red nuts as apose to the one with white rings? I didn't think so until I saw vintage synth explorer calling the white ringed version the "new" cp-251.... Which got me if was tinkered with at all besides the look of it

Pogo wrote: Hey this is probally a dumb question but is ther any difference in the cp-251 with red nuts as apose to the one with white rings? I didn't think so until I saw vintage synth explorer calling the white ringed version the "new" cp-251.... Which got me if was tinkered with at all besides the look of it

Not really...though some have said that the four channel mixer on the old one makes a better audio mixer. I think perhaps they used components with a higher signal to noise ratio before, and then realized they could get away with cheaper components for CV. Just a guess.

I think the differences are that the paint on the red bolts flaked off anyway, so they went with the white rings, which indicate that they are active jacks. So they will power something like an expresion pedal.

The attenuators on the "New" cp251 are also considered "Active" in the sence that they go from -5 to plus 5 meaning that you can reverse a voltage signal like an envelope.

Those are the onl differences I know of.

Eric