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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:10 pm
by Gonga
My Atari 2600 controllers generate simple static "analog" voltages, but they don't have pots. And the voltages are not continuosly variable, but are static. The controllers are also too small to contain pots of any quality.
Moog has long needed to offer a joystick alternative. The controllers are a big part of what makes an instrument musical, and there are an awful lot of great players who play joystick for pitch instead of wheel. I can play wheel and have for years, but I hate them!
In addition to the above, a VC stick would also fix the well-documented artifact problems with the RME.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:19 pm
by EricK
I think they would be further ahead building the XYA touchsurface so that RME, LP, and OS owners can benefit from having that awesome voyager feature, and so that RME and OS owners can benefit from having those CV outs on their vx351.
Besides, Bob already built a standalone prototype.....and you could even put a joystick on it and have 2 controllers in one unit.
Eric
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:20 pm
by Just Me
The joystick with my Atari ST was an analog pot model. Sorry, I wasn't thinking the gaming consoles.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:22 pm
by EricK
Ive got the ATARI 400 and Ive got the big red joystick with the 2 buttons, and 2 of the little black joysticks that they now sell in the toy department as "retro" with some of the original games actually built in.
I even have a trackball! I don't think that it works but ill bet its just something that can be easily fixed.
My father has a computer museum lol. Atari 400 Commodore 128, hell the computer that im on is ancient lolol.
Eric
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:07 pm
by Gonga
You have the option of a Voyager. I have no options whatsoever, and a touchsurface would not help in the least.
EricK wrote:I think they would be further ahead building the XYA touchsurface so that RME, LP, and OS owners can benefit from having that awesome voyager feature, and so that RME and OS owners can benefit from having those CV outs on their vx351.
Besides, Bob already built a standalone prototype.....and you could even put a joystick on it and have 2 controllers in one unit.
Eric
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:22 pm
by Gonga
Don't apologize. I appreciate your post. It's just that as an analog synth player of 34 years, I am horribly frustrated that I can't find an instrument-quality voltage-controlled joystick at all. What I need is one of very high quality, since I use the pitch bender constantly in my playing, and use it for vibrato as well. I wear them out frequently.
This forum, apparently, is the only place where I can communicate at all with the Moog product development person/people, and all my posts on this topic over the last couple of years have never amounted to anything. The reason for my search is that when controlling pitch bend with midi, the Voyager produces awful-sounding digital artifacts, and this problem has never been addressed. Hence my search for an analog joystick. And there isn't one. I don't want to blame Moog either, because I love my RME and if Moog doesn't see a market for joysticks, well that is their call.
For joystick players, there isn't an analog sythesizer, which is to say there is no instrument for me at all. Perhaps now you can understand the full extent of my frustration.
I must be pretty dense though, because instead of waiting for Moog to produce a joystick for their synths, what I need to do is get my wonderful keyboard repair guy to build me one.
I want to thank everyone sincerely for their posts.
Just Me wrote:The joystick with my Atari ST was an analog pot model. Sorry, I wasn't thinking the gaming consoles.