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Re: My Take On The Whole Enchilada

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:28 am
by sergiovalente9
Assar wrote:
dlearyus wrote:how about a VST/DX plugin version THEN I WOULD BUY it.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!
THAT I'm willing to pay for. :D
sergiovalente9 wrote:the "coming soon" moogeler
What's that???
Check at http://www.moogmusic.com/members/ . I some program to share preset from moog synths and mooger fooger

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:18 pm
by Little John
I have to agree, this one should be free or almost free. A vst version so I could control it from a midi controller. That would be good, worth paying for.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:08 am
by DocT
Little John wrote:I have to agree, this one should be free or almost free.
Why ?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:20 am
by Assar
I don't care if it is free or not. If it was something I thought I could have use of, I would buy it.
I can't see the point in this kind of sw if it's not working as it is supposed to, if it's supposed to work that is ...

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:19 am
by Moomin
DocT wrote:Why ?
Because the synth itself is pretty expensive? Compare it to Korgs new R3 where you get a software editior for free when you buy it.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:50 am
by doctorno
Who needs such an editor for the Little Phatty. This synth is so easy to use on its own, that such an editor is completely useless in my opinion. You do not pay 1349,- Euro for an analogue synthesizer to turn the knobs on the computer screen in the end, do you? If you like software editors, you can buy an Arturia Minimoog or something like that.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:35 am
by goldphinga
chill out dudes!

:)

I think its a great thing to offer and for me will be very useful for coming up with new patches, and organising them. Hats off to soundtower for doing the work. Why exactly should it be free though????

Korg and the likes are huge multi nationals and can afford to give software away for free with keys like the r3 etc. Moog is tiny and so are soundtower so i think it only right that they charge for it. Small businesses have to charge. If you dont like it then thats your problem. Its hardly a lot of cash is it? Neither do i think and LP costs too much for the quality of instrument you get.

Stump up the cash or shut up moaning!!!

Tis all good from where im standing...

Bye

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:07 am
by acmesoundlab
I agree that the price is reasonable and the product is very good. I purchased it immediately, and had a lot of trouble authorizing it at first. One of the tech support people spent from about noon that day till 8:00pm emailing back and forth with me, very patiently, till the problem was resolved. Excellent support. As far as having to buy it, Moog and Soundtower are relatively small companies, and I am happy to support them. I pay more for a new tube at my local bike shop rather then go to wal-mart or target, for the same reason. Just my 2 cents.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:39 am
by Little John
I will most likely "shut up and cough up the cash". in theory this program will be very useful. And yes I do like to support small businesses who put care and love into their craft. And I have also found the tech support from Moog to be great.

So I retract my earlier statement that it "should", be free.

Now I will get back twiddling knobs with a clear conscious !

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:54 pm
by Assar
Still, if I can't get the demo to work as demo should, how can I be sure it works if I buy a license?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:18 pm
by dlearyus
[quote="goldphinga"]chill out dudes!

:)

I think its a great thing to offer and for me will be very useful for coming up with new patches......

what you said made me think again...yes no reason to "expect" free amd the price isn't unreasonable at all, "minimum going rate" so to speak to cover production costs etc. BUT....would it be unreasoable to "request a consideration" for a choice of VST and/or standalone? PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP EVEN! :) perhaps in a v1.1 update? Standalone is great for some uses as is VST etc. :) My apologies to Soundtower and Moog.

Sincerely,
A Humble Loyal Mooger

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:31 am
by Funkasizer
Moomin wrote: DSI charges for their editor too.
I beg to differ. The DSI polyevolver editor is for free when you buy the rack version. DSI charges only if you want to have the editor for the keyboard version.

Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:13 am
by Amos
Funkasizer wrote:
Moomin wrote: DSI charges for their editor too.
I beg to differ. The DSI polyevolver editor is for free when you buy the rack version. DSI charges only if you want to have the editor for the keyboard version.

Jack
This is a very relevant comparison. The PolyEvolver rack has (practically) no knobs, therefore the editor is virtually a requirement in order to edit sounds. The PolyEvolver keyboard can edit sounds from the front panel, so the editor is useful but not essential and they charge for it.

The Little Phatty can be fully edited from the synth itself; therefore the editor is useful but not essential and there is a charge for it. The editor cost serious money to develop and Moog is a small company; when you buy the editor you are helping Moog to recoup the cost of developing the editor, and therefore helping Moog to stay in business and make more gear! That's not a bad thing in my book. :cool:

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:43 pm
by OriginalJambo
Meh, the Moog LP is such a simple synth that an editor really isn't required for me.

Now if it was a Roland D-50, DX7 or any other 80s synth with digital parameter style access then I would be interested.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:53 pm
by acmesoundlab
I agree that there is not much need for an editor, but I save so many patches, that to have a program that manages them so much better than sysex(I'm on a mac), is worth it's (virtual)weight in gold.





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