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Yeah I can fire the envelopes at will with a paper clip.

What are you trying to trigger the micro with? When I hook it up to my voyager I have to put the voyager trigger into the cp mixer and either amp it up or offset it I don't remember. But if I didn't I would trigger the micro and leave the gate open.

I performed the tests again with both cables:



NewCable:
1.Black lead to short prong, red lead to sleeve = tone.
2.Black lead to fat prong, red lead to either the sleeve or the tip = no tone or movement.
3.Red lead to short prong, black lead to sleeve = tone
4.Red lead to fat prong, black lead to sleeve and tip =no movement on sleeve, more on tip.
5.Black lead to short prong, red lead to fat prong=no movement no tone.
6.At trigger source: Black lead to short prong, red lead to fat prong. Needle Pulses with gate
7.Red Lead to short, Black to fat, 9V battery to tip and sleeve= tone
8.Red lead to fat prong, black to short 9v Batter to tip and sleeve=needle, no tone
9. Red to sleeve, black to tip when inserted in Micromoog will fire repeatedly at my will.


Old Cable:
1.Black lead to short prong, red lead to sleeve = tone
2.Black lead to fat prong, red lead to either the sleeve or the tip = slight movement on sleeve and tip
3.Red lead to short prong, black lead to sleeve = tone
4.Red lead to fat prong, black lead to sleeve and tip = lots of movement at sleeve, slight at tip.
5.Black lead to short prong, red lead to fat prong=lots of movement no tone
6.At trigger source: Black lead to short prong, red lead to fat prong= needle pulses with the gate
7.Red to short, black to fat, 9v Battery to tip and sleeve= needle moved before battery was applied, almost a tone when applied.
8.Red Fat Black Short, 9v Battery to tip and sleeve, Needle jumped before and after battery was applied
9. Multimeter leads will not fire MicroMoog envelopes in any configuration when the old cable is inserted.

1. First test, cables performed exactly alike.
2. Cables differed
3. Cables alike.
4. Cables differed
5. cables differed
6. Cables alike
7. Cables differed
8.Cables alike.
9. Cables Different.

I am using the q119 gate out for these tests, but tries the midi-cv converter and the Voyager’s gate out, even sent to the mixer and amped up, and then sent to a mult and both to the mixer and no change in the result.

WHen plugged into the Micro, the old cable will always open the envelope.
THe new cable will not, and when touched to a sleeve of another jack plugged into a multiple repeatedly, it will fire and release repeatedly.

I'm not going to try and figure things out from the permutations you've posted, sorry, but looking at it logically....

1. The micro's S-trig in works because you shorted it with a paper clip and the envs fire.
2. You have a multitude of things that put out, apparently, true positive gates.

That leaves only the cable(s.)

At least this cable works [img]better[/img] than the first. No word from Roger yet.

I think they wire them up but don't test them on actual vintage gear.