Slim phatty pitchbend

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spin
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Re: Slim phatty pitchbend

Post by spin » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:10 pm

Thanks for your help! I would ask you if you a know a midi keyboard that will track phatty pitchbend correctly...
I have tried to send pitchbend message to phatty with a novation mk ii, an access virus ti 2 and a korg triton....with all i got the same problem, bad pitchbend response on phatty.
Here a small mp3 where in the first part i have controlled the pitchbend with the controller, in the second part i have used the little phatty pitchbend (yes i've got also a little phatty)
http://soundcloud.com/spinlud/phatty-pitchbend

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Re: Slim phatty pitchbend

Post by EMwhite » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:30 pm

Yeah. So I can definately hear the difference. I didn't know you had a LP also. That works perfectly? But I guess the point is that you want to take the SP mounted in a rack with a keyboard to a gig and leave LP safe at home?

How is the combo, if you don't mind me asking? Despite having so much Moog gear, I'm considering picking up a Slim.

As for a controller recommendation, I'm not sure I can help because aside from the SL II, all of my other gear is ancient. Maybe best to research specs and ask for a recommendation on Gearslutz or Muffs on the general forum. Even then, you may or may not love the feel. I love the Novation feel especially after touch but hate the stick, find the 14 bit encoders difficult and as you have now pointed out, issues with bend.

I had an Akai MPK prior and a Roland A-500 Pro. The MPK was sort of low budget feeling and purely 7-bit, I hated the feel of the stubby keys on the Roland.

May need to check out Studiologic of Kurzweil, tough one...
'76 Minimoog, Taurus 3, Oberheim FVS + Son of 2-voice; Sequential ProOne; Juno 106; Moog Model 15; Kurzweil 250; Hammond M3; and a handful of Fender Basses Flickr!

spin
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Re: Slim phatty pitchbend

Post by spin » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:51 am

i got exactly the same problem on both slim and little phatty. X___X
I am afraid that there is no solution at the moment....I doubt that i will found a better controller of an sl mk ii....but i will search. Do you think is impossible to achieve a better response to midi pitchbend from moog in a new firmware realese?

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Re: Slim phatty pitchbend

Post by EMwhite » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:45 am

A bit late getting back to this but I hooked a scope up to the output of the Phatty (have 3.1T) and witnessed ACTUAL 14 bit values. The SEND 14-bit setting under Midi menu also works as it should.
'76 Minimoog, Taurus 3, Oberheim FVS + Son of 2-voice; Sequential ProOne; Juno 106; Moog Model 15; Kurzweil 250; Hammond M3; and a handful of Fender Basses Flickr!

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Re: Slim phatty pitchbend

Post by jimmyklane » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:38 pm

An idea... not sure if it will work or not, and it means you need to have other gear to support it.

I own a Roland Alpha Juno, and I've noticed this very same pitchbend issue. MIDI to the AJ is course and sounds awful, but using the AJ's own bender is silky smooth, despite the fact that most of the AJ is under digital control, i have to assume the pitch/mod combo stick acts on cv alone. I'll try this when I get home, but maybe connecting it via MIDI will provide for smooth bends? If you've got access to an AJ2, then you've got a nice 6 voice poly with velocity and aftertouch...neither of those for my AJ1 :(

just a thought.... (and upon further thought) even if it IS CV controlled internally, it may very well quantize those steps when outputting the MIDI...most likely at the 7-bit level, since it's a board from the mid-80s!

worth a try, though, so I'll investigate and post back...
sorry to revive this 2 month old post, but maybe a solution can be found for SOME folks.

-jim
Synths: Source, Slim Phatty, Virus TI, Alpha Juno, Polysix, Monotribe, Blofeld, lots of software that I don't use often..
Effects: ADA S1000, SONY HR MP5, EVENTIDE H3000/H9, YAMAHA SPX90/

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