Moog Music Forum

Happy New Year everyone.

First, I would like to thank Omaroo for making me aware that this could be done via ad hoc wireless connection, and for taking the time to respond to my PM and to create a tutorial video. I was about to spend $70 on the iRig Midi or the Yamaha iMX-1 (camera connection will not work on iphone 4s). Not only is thee wireless option cheaper- it has, from my readings allowed less latency than the other option.

Unfortunately, I had been having the same "connection refused" trouble on both a MacBook Pro and a PC (via RTPmidi). My girlfriend and I spent most of new years day miserable trying to get this to work on a Mac, PC and 2 different iPhones 4s.

What I ended up doing is installing another application on the iPhone that also use midi connections... This seemed to prime the phone to accept midi in, and even after the application has been turned off, the Mac still accepts the connection via ad hoc. I'm getting 0 ms latency via ad hoc (much better than the aforementioned 5 pin adapters).

Here's what I recommend for Mac users with the connection problem:

1. install Pad MIDI from the app store (free).
2. Open Animoog and use Pad Midi to see if it controls Animoog.
3. Follow Omaroo's tutorial to initiate ad hoc wireless connection.

The one exception is that I simply wanted to map to my Axiom 49, so I routed the Axiom to Session 1 instead of Session 1 to Session 1 routing.

I plan on deleting the Pad MIDI app and seeing if it somehow primed the connection to allow wireless MIDI into iOS 5.0.1, since Animoog was my first midi app. I had also previously installed iRig's free software, but I don't think it was responsible for opening MIDI on my device.

Will update if I can get this working for PC (I did get a solid connection, but was having problem with an address conflict on rtpMIDI.

Hope this helps!

Chris

That's a great post Chris, thanks! I'm glad it's working for you now.

Interesting, your notion of another app possibly "priming" the iPhone. It may very well be relevant as I use a plethora of CoreMIDI-enabled apps on my phone and pad, including Sunrizer, NLog, etc. that were all in heavy use prior to Animoog.

Amos - have you had any response from Apple over this at all?

Hi Chris

Thanks for the tip.. i managed to get connected with the lemur app and send midi to animoog via midibridge…
After that I was also able to connect to animoog with the network session.

It does seem other apps are able to connect to network sessions in os 5.01 - it's just a direct animoog connection that seems to cause problems.

Setting up a network connection in lemur does indeed seem to open the way for connecting to animoog directly, so perhaps this bug is in fact in the animoog app.

Anyway, great find!

Following up on my previous post, I did delete the "priming" MIDI apps and still received the same connectivity on the MacBook Pro. I was also able to get connectivity on a ThinkPad W520 via rtpMIDI/Bonjour, although with quite a bit more latency on an intermittent basis (40 - 120 ms at times) although I couldn't tell when playing.

I still haven't tried with my girlfriend's iPhone, but will attempt to repeat in the next couple of days. I very suspicious that this is related to Apple's controls on the new iOS, since USB midi was allowed in one of the beta versions and removed before the final release.

Allow me to add my experience so far in case it might help someone at Moog debug:

My iPhone 4 with iOS 5.0.1 also gets the dreaded "refused connection" error message, even when on an AdHoc network with my Mac Mini running Lion.

However, when I reboot my iPhone and the first thing I do is start up Animoog and connect, I don't get the "refused connection" message. Instead, after about 5 - 10 seconds, I get a different message: "0.0.0.0:5004 didn't respond to the connection request. Check the address and port, and any firewall or router settings."

Note that 0.0.0.0 is in the actual error message, but it's (obviously) not the IP address of my iPhone.

Haven't tried using another Wifi MIDI app first. Gonna try that next.

Cobrabee wrote: Here's what I recommend for Mac users with the connection problem:

1. install Pad MIDI from the app store (free).
2. Open Animoog and use Pad Midi to see if it controls Animoog.
3. Follow Omaroo's tutorial to initiate ad hoc wireless connection.

Brilliant Chris!!! This worked perfectly!!!

I was getting the same error and sort of tricked my iphone into connecting to the network MIDI using another app that uses MIDI (AC-7 Core). I launched AC-7, made the MIDI connection in Audio MIDI setup on the Mac, backgrounded AC-7, then launched Animoog and voila, my USB-connected M-Audio oxygen8v2 was able to talk to my Animoog on my iPhone (5.0.1) through my girlfriend's mac (10.6.

do you think AC-7 Core can solve my animoog issue? (here is my post http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopi ... 13&t=12711) thanks

Hi everyone,
I know this post is not quite about this issue, but would it be ok to ask you to share how you guys go about play Animoog from a MIDI keyboard (using Wi-Fi) inside Logic?
I can do it in Live, but the MIDI in/out process is a bit different in Logic..
I can get audio in Logic, on an Audio track, but I would like to be able to play it from the MIDI keyboard instead.

Thank you so much for the help,
Rui

Sorry if this is redundant or not pertinent.
In my own trials of network midi connection between 2 macs what I found was the target computer must have the drop menu item "who may connect to me" set to anyone.