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Amos wrote:

misterhemi wrote:"What? A 'more affordable' synth? Next we'll have the 'Little Phatty OS' "

I'm still 99% sure that an "old school" knob-per-function Little Phatty would cost more than the LP Stage Edition. It would need at least 21 knobs, four or five rotary switches... that stuff adds up. With the Voyager OS it already had the knobbage and you only had to take things out (and design new panel boards, and some other R&D challenges) but with the LP you would have to add so much in, just to strip it down to the Old School level. Kinda funny, in a way. Boy that would be a good sounding lil' synth though.

Maybe a boutique, super-special edition: knob-per-function LP with discrete transistor filter. What the hey, give it a pratt-reed keyboard while we're at it... I'll work on that in my copious free time.

THATS Funny!..... But, I like that!

Is Pratt-Reed still in business??? The last time I saw a product from them it was their name on a screwdriver or pot adjustment tool (I forget which). I do think I liked the feel of their keyboards better than Fatar's though.

BTW any possibility of a LP RME????

Alright, i'm being silly but i've got one for ya Amos.....

Let say Moog makes a polyphonic single oscillator synth (e.g.- Korg MS-10 but poly).

How would Moog users determine how "Phat" it is... and.... what name would it have?




Well, here is a clue, using the scientific "table of phatness" as developed by ME if you look here, it would not be merely "phat".

In fact, I think an 8 voice/8 oscillator synth would be 266.4% Phat (as determined by the table).

You could not use the word "phat" in its name as it would be rather "obese", LOL

Hmmm...... 8 oscillators! I like that! And if they could all be stacked for one obese note or it could be split (4 + 4) that would be sweeeeet!

Then it would have to be named the "Obese Moog" aka "Phat bass-tud"

How about an 88 key/88 osc polyphonic synth with an analog scale and one of these:



This can also be used as a voltage generator!

I've always wanted to see Moog release a nice, I mean really nice (which is why I'm asking Moog to do it - all they DO is nice!) controller keyboard. Perhaps a 76 key. No tone producing guts, just control.

One of the biggest things that MOOG surpasses everyone else at is AESTHETICS. The look and the feel. Imagine having a controller keyboard that has the feel in the keyboard, the knobs the wheel - everything you touch with that MOOG LIFETIME quality.

Guys, also look at the market. This would appeal not only to MOOG enthusiasts, but ALL keyboard players world wide. Production should be a BREEZE.

Other musicians have lifetime 'work of art' instruments - why not keyboard players?? We deserve one.

I'd be VERY happy and proud to one one for the rest of my life.

Forgive me Moogies... I didn't mean to suggest that we don't have lifetime works of art. I meant BESIDES the current Moog product line-up.

CB

48, 61 and 76 key models, with modular left hand controllers, that users can mail order and install themselves. I'd like a joystick and middle-finger "whammy bar" (on the side, below the joystick). I'd also like a transpose toggle switch like on the old Roland SH-1000, and an assignable knob or three right there just behind the joystick.

Yeah! You got the idea! Your ideas focus on a synth players needs! Very cool indeed. imagin a drawer-like pull out beneath the keyboard and presto! a ribbon controller! (the big one, not the wheel replacement). I for one don't need to pick it up and imitate Keith.

But really, what I'm looking for is a controller to control all sorts of keyboards with lots of knobs and sliders and stuff.

Christopher J. Boylan wrote:Yeah! You got the idea! Your ideas focus on a synth players needs! Very cool indeed. imagin a drawer-like pull out beneath the keyboard and presto! a ribbon controller! (the big one, not the wheel replacement). I for one don't need to pick it up and imitate Keith.

But really, what I'm looking for is a controller to control all sorts of keyboards with lots of knobs and sliders and stuff.

I have to agree with you.

My situation now is one where a GOOD controller would be appreciated.

I have too many keys and i'm out of space. I really want a Voyager keyboard and a DSI Prophet 08 but don't really have the space for both in their keyboard forms.

The Voyager is a bit small, as is, for me to use as a controller but then I don't know how well the Prophet would do as a controller for a Voyager RME. There was a thread posted here about some controllers having a lower resolution than other thereby creating zipper/stepping noises when wheel or knobs were used.

So, such a controller (especially with lots of knobs and buttons) would be appreciated. I think it would be nice if there were a simple 2x20 LCD/Vacuum Fluorescent display beneath each knob that can be programmed to show which parameter and device it is assigned to control....

Perhaps using OLED's to display info on the buttons or for the knobs.

Just some ideas.... and making it user configurable (as you guys mentioned above) with various controllers (joysticks, ribbons, etc) would be perfect!

Moog could repackage the little phatty internal hardware into a semi-modular synth ala Analogue Solutions - Red Square or Future Retro - XS. I think this would be a good move for multiple reasons:
a - Many people are already asking for "modular" moog and it would work for those wanting to ender the world of modular as well as those with modulars
b - repackaging existing hardware wouldn't require r&d beyond routing options
c - considering what you switching out I imagine they could keep the semi-modular as cheap or cheaper than the LP
d - a semi-modular moog would probably lead to many mogerfooger purchases

That sounds like a really good idea.

Moog would have to add a lot of jacks and also some attenuators though.
Probably best to have the jacks with normals overridden by plugging in a plug.

But I could see a Moog "voice" rack (or whatever you call it) in many studios that otherwise wouldn't purchase a phatty or voyager.
I wonder how big the boards are in a Phatty?
For a rack, you're limited to about 17" internally.

To follow up on the controller ideas, I thought of something you might find interesting. Imagine if the pitch and mod wheels had metal threads inserted at the base of the thumb indentations, where the user could attatch a stick. Now imagine being able to lift the entire wheel plate up and rotate it 90 degrees. You now have two single-axis joysticks.

My suggestion would be to offer the existing Moogerfooger pedals as more easily rackable modules and do an ADSR and VCA combo since that's the major piece that's not there if one were to try to make a synth from Moogerfoogers.

In terms of a polyphonic instrument, perhaps go the opposite route from the Old School. Build something all MIDI with minimal controls and rack size using say Phatty voices and use the Phatty as a controller and front panel. Then you'd buy as many you need or can afford and chain them.

nick

nicholas d. kent wrote:My suggestion would be to offer the existing Moogerfooger pedals as more easily rackable modules and do an ADSR and VCA combo since that's the major piece that's not there if one were to try to make a synth from Moogerfoogers.

In terms of a polyphonic instrument, perhaps go the opposite route from the Old School. Build something all MIDI with minimal controls and rack size using say Phatty voices and use the Phatty as a controller and front panel. Then you'd buy as many you need or can afford and chain them.

nick

I agree and have requested the same way back on this forum. A more synth user friendly version of the moogers, rackmount with the jacks out in front- Rackmounted OS Voyager with jacks out in front- a quality CV Keyboard Controller with ribbon controller and minimoog style mod-pitch wheels.

I voted for poly synth because I understand poly synths are doing great since the mid seventies

Christopher J. Boylan wrote: But really, what I'm looking for is a controller to control all sorts of keyboards with lots of knobs and sliders and stuff.

expensive but totally customizable

JazzMutant Lemur

i would LOVE one :)

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