Moog's Next Polysynth?
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Moog's Next Polysynth?
When will Moog ever come out with the successor to the Memorymoog? The Polymoog was especially the worst of the two polysynths Moog did make before it went under in 1983. Before its collapse, Moog had planned to release the SL8 as its foil to the Yamaha DX7.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Judging by the current tendencies at Moog Music (just look at the price tag on that Series 500 Ladder Filter), if there is ever such a modern successor to the Memorymoog with perhaps an improved decent 8 voice polyphony made of Voyager quality, the cost would be prohibitive.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Maybe when market conditions are better, with an unemployment rate of 5% or lower. Just maybe...thealien666 wrote:Judging by the current tendencies at Moog Music (just look at the price tag on that Series 500 Ladder Filter), if there is ever such a modern successor to the Memorymoog with perhaps an improved decent 8 voice polyphony made of Voyager quality, the cost would be prohibitive.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Great idea, not sure why it hasn't been discussed on this forum.
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*spits morning coffee all over monitor*unfiltered37 wrote:Great idea, not sure why it hasn't been discussed on this forum.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Try doing a search on "polysynth" to see why everyone just spit their coffee all over their monitors...unfiltered37 wrote:Great idea, not sure why it hasn't been discussed on this forum.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
I lol'ed at this.unfiltered37 wrote:Great idea, not sure why it hasn't been discussed on this forum.
(Side note, never even heard of the S8 before this thread. I gotta do some research on that one.)
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Another idea no one's brought up: I think Moog should make a new modular system. And why hasn't anyone compared the Voyager to the Model D?
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
polysynths are a huge pain in the ass,and i guarantee you that moog will never make that mistake again.if you want poly that much,you will have to buy a different brand.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Or I could just buy their last one, the Memorymoog Plus with the LAMM upgrades.dan thacker wrote:polysynths are a huge pain in the ass,and i guarantee you that moog will never make that mistake again.if you want poly that much,you will have to buy a different brand.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Utter nonsense. Moog didn't make a mistake by wanting to produce a polysynth back in the days. They were only too ambitious with the limited electronics technology of the day. Sequential Circuit had the same difficulties with their Prophet 5 (originally a 10 voices synth that they had to remove half the circuits because of overheating).dan thacker wrote:polysynths are a huge pain in the ass,and i guarantee you that moog will never make that mistake again.if you want poly that much,you will have to buy a different brand.
But with today's advanced circuitry, creating an 8 voice analog polysynth wouldn't be difficult at all. It's not here yet only because of economics, not because of limited technology this time IMHO.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
You're kidding, right? This topic has been bandied about for years on this very forum (and it continues to be a hot topic). A quick search on YouTube also reveals a numbers of example videos (try searching 'Voyager Model D").unfiltered37 wrote:And why hasn't anyone compared the Voyager to the Model D?
And then there's 'Vintage, Voyager or Virtual', a shoot-out between a Model D, a Voyager and Creamware MiniMax that was done three years ago and posted on KnobTweak, along with MP3 audio examples:
KnobTweak > Files > Voyager > Vintage, Voyager or Virtual > Comparison Test.pdf
You were kidding, right?
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
I was just thinking about this yesterday. Rather than waiting for Moog to build a polysynth, you can just build one yourself with modules from other manufacturers.
Tallying it up in modules alone, the total was $6120 for 10 Oscs, 10 Filters, 20 EnvGens, and 10 VCA's, not counting cabinetry and power modules or shipping.
It would comprise about 70 spaces in two 44 space cabinets (synthesizers.com).
In our old polysynth thread I posted a poll about what kind of synth that we would want. Some people (in my opinion) had ridiculous expectations for an all analogue polysynth. They wanted it to sound fantastic, in a small package at an inexpensive price. I want the huge behemoth of a synth, which is a bit more realistic (in my opinion) for the nature of the technology we are talking about.
If I lost you at "$6120", well thats not an unreasonable price if you think that 10 Slim Phattys is roughly 8 grand or the 2 SO4V from Tom Oberheim is $6990. The dotcom route is extremely more flexible.
We all want a polysynth, but its going to cost us to get one.
Tallying it up in modules alone, the total was $6120 for 10 Oscs, 10 Filters, 20 EnvGens, and 10 VCA's, not counting cabinetry and power modules or shipping.
It would comprise about 70 spaces in two 44 space cabinets (synthesizers.com).
In our old polysynth thread I posted a poll about what kind of synth that we would want. Some people (in my opinion) had ridiculous expectations for an all analogue polysynth. They wanted it to sound fantastic, in a small package at an inexpensive price. I want the huge behemoth of a synth, which is a bit more realistic (in my opinion) for the nature of the technology we are talking about.
If I lost you at "$6120", well thats not an unreasonable price if you think that 10 Slim Phattys is roughly 8 grand or the 2 SO4V from Tom Oberheim is $6990. The dotcom route is extremely more flexible.
We all want a polysynth, but its going to cost us to get one.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
Referring back to the first post the SL8 was cancelled mainly because of the introduction of the comparatively inexpensive Yamaha DX-7.
Moog saw that their SL8 could never be manufactured inexpensively enough to compete with the DX-7 and its new sound palate so the project was cancelled
after only one kluged two box SL8 prototype was produced.
Moog saw that their SL8 could never be manufactured inexpensively enough to compete with the DX-7 and its new sound palate so the project was cancelled
after only one kluged two box SL8 prototype was produced.
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Re: Moog's Next Polysynth?
I do tire of the Polymoog bashing. It's not like the Memorymoog was problem free when it was released, either... it was a massively hurried job.
The SL-8 had DCOs. You want a DCO polysynth? Your problems are solved.
The SL-8 had DCOs. You want a DCO polysynth? Your problems are solved.
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