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Post by mayidunk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:25 am

mayidunk wrote:I actually find that I get very good bass with my 6.5" monitors. I A/B'd them with a set of good headphones, and they are comparable. (I know, I know... no pant flappin'! But I have neighbors with very loud sound systems. Call it detente... )

Actually, I'm afraid that after dropping a ton of money on a subwoofer, I'd decide that it was just muddying up the mix and stop using it.
Update:
I am a certified gear slut! I'm not even a discriminating slut at that! Behringer?!

Damn!

I kept reading about the Behringer TRUTH B2092A subwoofer, and the more I read, the more I had to try it! I found it on provantage.com for $191 shipped, and I couldn't resist!

GAS!!!

Here's provantage's order page:
http://www.provantage.com/behringer-b2092a~7BEHR001.htm

Here's Behringer's page:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/B2092A.aspx

Here's a fairly detailed review:
http://www.tcmagazine.info/articles.php ... rticle=184

Heh heh... at least my living room has a high, vaulted ceiling. Think I might get lucky?

I'll let you know if it ends up becoming a heavy and expensive end-table!

Sigh! :oops:

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Post by EricK » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:45 am

Ive heard so much bad stuff about everything Behringer, I would probably not buy Behringer toilet paper cause it would probably just get my hands dirty.
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Post by mayidunk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:22 am

See what I mean? I have no shame. ;)

Actually, I have a few Behringer items, and they've managed to survive to this point. From what I'm reading, this subwoofer sounds pretty good for the money.

I guess we'll see...

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Post by Stick_Player » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:27 am

Ive heard so much bad stuff about everything Behringer,
I have some good Behringer stuff and some bad Behringer stuff. It's hit 'n miss with them. You need to do your homework on each individual piece.

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Post by superd2112 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:31 pm

Stick_Player wrote:
Ive heard so much bad stuff about everything Behringer,
I have some good Behringer stuff and some bad Behringer stuff. It's hit 'n miss with them. You need to do your homework on each individual piece.
Ditto. I have a Behringer mixer, and its been very reliable. My buddy has a Behringer bass rig, and it is just an absolute turd. For my Taurus 3s, I had a Peavey Tour TNT-115 combo on order from Sweetwater, but I cancelled my order (no telling when they are ever going to ship) and instead ordered an SWR Headlite 400-watt head which I will run through my Sonic cab loaded with a JBL 15" speaker.

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Post by Sparks » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:04 pm

The bottom end specs on the Behringer sub look real good as does the price. Nothing I have goes usable (-10db = 121db) below 43Hz. In reality, will I feel much difference on stage playing rock covers if I find/build a speaker that goes to 31hz (or lower)? Opinions? Thanks.
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Post by idemfred » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:35 pm

Do a 360watts sub can help feel the bass in a room of 16X24X7 fill with 1 drum, 2 guitars, 1 organ and keyboards? I was thinking about building a Tuba HT from Bill Fitzmaurice...I already have a DBX crossover and a QSC amp so could be a good way to go. Maybe I should just wait for the T3 and see what to do from there....

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Post by Sparks » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:22 pm

idemfred wrote:Do a 360watts sub can help feel the bass in a room of 16X24X7 fill with 1 drum, 2 guitars, 1 organ and keyboards? I was thinking about building a Tuba HT from Bill Fitzmaurice...I already have a DBX crossover and a QSC amp so could be a good way to go. Maybe I should just wait for the T3 and see what to do from there....
+1 on the BFM Tuba designs. That was my next solution.

As for feeling the bass in a band situation, stage or rehearsal room, I use a pair of 700w QSC HPR151i (front loaded, front ported, 15 inch) subs with a pair of HPR122i (400W 12" + 100W 1.4" horn) passively filtered at 100hz and I can pump the entire band (3 vocals, 2 guitars, bass, keys, kick, overhead) through it and cover about 250 people with enough bass for 70s/80/s covers. QSC specs them at 131 db, FWIW. So, yeah, I think the 360 W Behringer crossed at 80 would help feel the bass in that room or on a pub stage as a monitor.

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Post by idemfred » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:08 pm

I only need a solution for the rehearsal room, when I play in public I add a sub or 2 for my bass rig. I need something to feel the bass in my chest!

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Post by Stick_Player » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:24 pm

For the "Do It Yourselfers", check these out:

Titan 39

Titan 48

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Post by acorkos » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:01 am

i have a t39...22" wide w/Eminence Delta 12LF, powered by 500 watts from a bridged QSC RMX850. Check out this link regarding getting 6 to 12 db more volume from a sub up near a wall or pointed into a corner...
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... ?f=1&t=398

and here's the innards of my t39 while it was being built:
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Post by Stick_Player » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:46 am

acorkos,

Did you construct your T39 yourself? How well does it work?

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Post by Stick_Player » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:52 am

This is an interesting chart:

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If anyone really thinks that an 8x10 (SVT-style) has 'REAL' bottom end... :shock:

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Post by mayidunk » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:09 am

acorkos wrote:i have a t39...22" wide w/Eminence Delta 12LF, powered by 500 watts from a bridged QSC RMX850. Check out this link regarding getting 6 to 12 db more volume from a sub up near a wall or pointed into a corner...
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... ?f=1&t=398

and here's the innards of my t39 while it was being built:
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Where is the speaker mounted?

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Post by HB3 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:13 am

I'm guessing that's a side view, and the speaker goes top left? Looks like there's a hole there -- and note the wires.

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