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I just saw a very interesting video tour of the DSI factory. Does anyone know if there's anything like that for Moog?
I assume Moog does all of its manufacturing in-house. How automated is it? Is the LP line the only product that uses SMT?
Questions... questions...
I assume Moog does all of its manufacturing in-house. How automated is it? Is the LP line the only product that uses SMT?
Questions... questions...
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Okay... I found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27EMQ_I6Xc
But it's from a few years ago, and there's no Phatty production.
There's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkqQDM-KBq8
Which is more recent.
But I'm struck by how, although there is obviously a manual "assembly line," Moog doesn't seem to have [in these videos] facilities for manufacturing the actual circuit boards. Is this farmed out to a contract manufacturer?
Also... does anyone know if circuit board manufacturing, as opposed to assembly, is done on a batch or continuous basis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27EMQ_I6Xc
But it's from a few years ago, and there's no Phatty production.
There's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkqQDM-KBq8
Which is more recent.
But I'm struck by how, although there is obviously a manual "assembly line," Moog doesn't seem to have [in these videos] facilities for manufacturing the actual circuit boards. Is this farmed out to a contract manufacturer?
Also... does anyone know if circuit board manufacturing, as opposed to assembly, is done on a batch or continuous basis?
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the circuit boards are most likely produced in batches, because Moog does not ship hundreds of synths per week. But a pcb-board company does them by hundreds per week. And running a line at a non constant fast rate would cause a loss of money.
The boards are done nearly automatic. But the assembling is done by hand.
BTW: DSI is also only producing batches of boards in "their" contracted company.
The boards are done nearly automatic. But the assembling is done by hand.
BTW: DSI is also only producing batches of boards in "their" contracted company.
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This is interesting. SO... If Moog introduces a new line -- say, the Taurus III -- it doesn't need to take production capacity out of another line [except in terms of assembly and large parts, but much of that is interchangeable, I imagine]. It also means that re-tooling costs are probably pretty low...till wrote:the circuit boards are most likely produced in batches, because Moog does not ship hundreds of synths per week. But a pcb-board company does them by hundreds per week. And running a line at a non constant fast rate would cause a loss of money.
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They had to keep costs down SOMEHOW to get the price below 1300 USD. I think we can all agree that the Little Phatty is far superior to the Microkorg.Anna's Digit wrote:in CHINA ????? like the Microkorg!!!!!!!!!
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But the MicroKorg is plyphonic and has a vocoder!Voltor07 wrote:They had to keep costs down SOMEHOW to get the price below 1300 USD. I think we can all agree that the Little Phatty is far superior to the Microkorg.
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It's a piece of crap! It sounds like crap, it feels like the Yamaha PSR-50 I had when I was six, and it looks like something from Toys R Us. Now please stop trying to get me riled.
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PCBs from abroad-
I watched a film on-line about the production of PCBs in greater Asia. The robotics, testing, masking
are amazing. The quality control is very organised, and from the film, a segment at ASUS said, I believe, 99.95% perfect. And that on an assembly line that can reconfigure in a few days. Why we only use that tech here for CPUs and the like is hard to understand. So if Moog Music outsources the surface mount tech, I bet they go with a quality house.
And surface mount is a lot more durable then discrete, just very difficult to work on. ( I worked on hand-held radios before my eyesight got bad.)
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are amazing. The quality control is very organised, and from the film, a segment at ASUS said, I believe, 99.95% perfect. And that on an assembly line that can reconfigure in a few days. Why we only use that tech here for CPUs and the like is hard to understand. So if Moog Music outsources the surface mount tech, I bet they go with a quality house.
And surface mount is a lot more durable then discrete, just very difficult to work on. ( I worked on hand-held radios before my eyesight got bad.)
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What's all this about the microKorg?!
Those instruments are great. They're like the LP of the normal synth world. They're cheap, and sound great. The micro was the first synth I owned, and I love it!
Those instruments are great. They're like the LP of the normal synth world. They're cheap, and sound great. The micro was the first synth I owned, and I love it!
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LP of the normal synth world is exactly right. Which is why the LP is still superior. If the Microkorg fits your needs, great! I just felt it was inferior to the LP. I was open to either one when I was looking for a synth. The LP felt more like an instrument and less like a toy IMHO.
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