Single Osc. Pitch Mod

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tnden
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Single Osc. Pitch Mod

Post by tnden » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:32 pm

Hello there,

I have a patch on my voyager that has the 3 oscillators tuned to a major triad, and have been trying to work out how to set up one of the wheels to turn it into a minor triad.

The best I've been able to come up with is via pot mapping. I've turned the pitch wheel amount off, then mapped the wheel to oscillator 2 pitch, with an amount of 25%. This works, but it requires a partial bend on the pitch wheel, and getting it to be in tune is kinda hit or miss.

Any ideas?

Todd

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Post by jamirokid » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:01 am

I'd like to know if you could do this too. I could see maybe setting osc 3 to drone then pb to 1 semitone or uh...but what about the other tone? Good question tnden!! I hope there's a way you could do this.
Josh

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Post by GregAE » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:02 am

While I continue to ponder if it's possible to do this, here's an idea:

Detune one of the oscillators to create a minor triad and save that patch in the very next memory slot. You will allow you to switch back and forth between major and minor triads with just a quick patch change. If the patch is the sustaining type, you can switch between patches (major->minor or minor->major) without having to retrigger the envelope.

You can take this idea further, adding any three-note combination patch (augmented, diminished, inverted, etc.) to additional memory slots. You can use this technique to make up all the chords in a song, turning the Voyager into a psuedo-poly synth.

G

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Post by Stuckinabox » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:06 am

Pot map solution sounds neat but if you need to be precise :? I'm not sure what to tell you. You can also set the mod wheel to ON>Osc 2 and adjust the bend with the amount knob, of course. Using pedal/on like this and having it glide up with the filter is especially cool *coughhoedowncough*

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Post by jamirokid » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:13 am

maybe for the os upgrade Rudy can add the ability to change the pb on all osc. or a single osc. It might be possible?

Josh

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Post by tnden » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:16 am

[quote="Stuckinabox"]Pot map solution sounds neat but if you need to be precise :? I'm not sure what to tell you. You can also set the mod wheel to ON>Osc 2 and adjust the bend with the amount knob, of course. Using pedal/on like this and having it glide up with the filter is especially cool *coughhoedowncough*[/quote]

This works great, and so simple. I guess you can pick the new boy. Just have to be quick on the mod wheel.

Thanks.

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Re: Single Osc. Pitch Mod

Post by jamirokid » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:17 am

tnden wrote:Hello there,

I have a patch on my voyager that has the 3 oscillators tuned to a major triad, and have been trying to work out how to set up one of the wheels to turn it into a minor triad.

The best I've been able to come up with is via pot mapping. I've turned the pitch wheel amount off, then mapped the wheel to oscillator 2 pitch, with an amount of 25%. This works, but it requires a partial bend on the pitch wheel, and getting it to be in tune is kinda hit or miss.

Any ideas?

Todd
Maybe we all just have to practice this a lot. Bends on guitar take a lot of practice to get right consistently.

Josh

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Country Moog

Post by jamirokid » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:13 am

Okay, this works great!
-Init parameters
-turn on osc 2, set pitch to play a minor third(about 2o'clock)
-turn on osc 3, set pitch to play a fifth (about 4 o'clock)
-set mod wheel buss to on/mod1; dest=osc2 amount=about 1 on the dial
It took a minute to dial in the right pitches( I had to shut 2 n 3 off for a sec) then I pushed the mod wheel forward then adjusted the amount until the minor third became a major third
VOILA! Instant pedal steel/moogie synth bliss:)!!
note: the mod amount knob is pretty damn touchy so it may take some careful tweaking!!

Josh

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double bends

Post by jamirokid » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:56 am

If you really want to get tricky try some double bend stuff...
start with the pedal steel patch already mentioned and set pedal/on buss to
source=on/mod2
dest=osc 3
shaping-on/pgm
amount=pretty f-ing tricky to set but sounds super cool moving from root to dominant 7(since you're bending the fifth I think it'd actually be bending to the 11th;)

The only thing is we're dealing with analog so even after you save a patch when you come back to it you may have to fine tune the extensions. Damn tempered tuning!

Cheers
Josh 8)

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