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Impossible Sound
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Post by Impossible Sound » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:23 pm

No aftertouch? Not so useful as a controller...

kumasynthtones
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Post by kumasynthtones » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:11 am

I'm really excited, can;t wait to get mine! I won't be using it as a controller anyways, but to have the capability just makes it more the reason to buy one.

thebedroom
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Post by thebedroom » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:44 pm

the voyager aftertouch is the worst I have ever used and they know it at Moog too. They were suppossed to be working on a fix, but no news yet. Maybe the lackluster nature of the present Moog aftertouch affected their decision.

carbon111
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Post by carbon111 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:12 pm

Impossible Sound wrote:No aftertouch? Not so useful as a controller...
Most of the Nord boards lack aftertouch too...obviously not a deal-killer...

This is a lead/performance instrument...most people will have it along with their controller ;)
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goldphinga
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Post by goldphinga » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:55 pm

Ive not played one board where aftertouch has really added anything useful to the synth imo.

I know what its meant to do and it fails on all counts. Its a waste of money and time for moog to implement it in the phatty. The voyager doesnt need it either..i dont reckon they'll waste any time trying to improve it. Valuable resources are best spent elsewhere, like on an upcoming polysynth.........


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rachel
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Post by rachel » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:02 am

I have aftertouch on my current controller (DX-7 IIFD).

Works great with other DX7's - all my other gear is nearly all analogue
so I don't miss the feature, except my SCI Multitrak seems to have a
sense for aftertouch for some reason!


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godzilla
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Post by godzilla » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:34 am

yeah i really like the aftertouch on my DX7, are you going to sell yours once you get the phatty rachel
i think i'm gonna have to sell mine, but i'll always keep my trusty little DX-100

rachel
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Post by rachel » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:59 am

Hmmm, I have had the DX since new. I even installed a GreyMatter Response
E! board in it way back then. I think I will keep it but pack it away for awhile because I have run out of space and I'd rather play the Jupiter 6 and the Phatty
then the DX7 these days!

I had a DX100 that died about 15 years ago.
Sent it to a repair guy who shot through with it
and never returned my calls and so on. Oh well....


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godzilla
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Post by godzilla » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:04 am

what is greymatter response? :?:

Amos
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Post by Amos » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:41 pm

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rachel
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Post by rachel » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:12 am

godzilla wrote:what is greymatter response? :?:
Ah, it's an expansion board that turned my DX7-IIFD into an 8 part
multi-timbral synth with 16 track sequencer, arpeggiator and phrase
recorder! It also expands the patch memory 4x and allows lots of
expanded MIDI functions. Basically, I removed the old DX eprom and
replaced it with the E! and soldered a couple of extra wires in. I got it
shipped from the US in about 1991 or something.

My DX is showing its years now as it was my workstation until I moved
to the Mac a few years ago. It's still my keyboard controller too,
but I am not using it for sounds and the E! board so much anymore.


rachel

drogoff
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Post by drogoff » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:02 pm

goldphinga wrote:Ive not played one board where aftertouch has really added anything useful to the synth imo.

I know what its meant to do and it fails on all counts. Its a waste of money and time for moog to implement it in the phatty. The voyager doesnt need it either..i dont reckon they'll waste any time trying to improve it. Valuable resources are best spent elsewhere, like on an upcoming polysynth.........


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I guess you've never played a CS-80.

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Post by Jazzpunk » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:35 am

drogoff wrote:I guess you've never played a CS-80.

David
Judging from Gold's gearlist, I seriously doubt he's unaware of the CS-80.

carbon111
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Post by carbon111 » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:27 pm

goldphinga wrote:Ive not played one board where aftertouch has really added anything useful to the synth imo.
Wow. There are plenty of uses for aftertouch...usually you need to scale it to your personal touch for it to be usefull at all. For bringing in vibrato when the modwheel is routed to cutoff or for bringing in subtle filter modulation, AT is perfect...god forbid we start making instruments less expressive. :shock:

That said, I have no interest for AT on the Little Phatty - its a fine leadmonster without - but I wouldn't want to live without AT on my Polyevolver Keyboard or my CS60. ;)
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Post by voltergeist » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:57 am

goldphinga wrote:Ive not played one board where aftertouch has really added anything useful to the synth imo.

I know what its meant to do and it fails on all counts. Its a waste of money and time for moog to implement it in the phatty. The voyager doesnt need it either..i dont reckon they'll waste any time trying to improve it. Valuable resources are best spent elsewhere, like on an upcoming polysynth.........


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I play two synths at all times and almost never have a free hand, so aftertouch is indispensible, and a board without aftertouch is of little use to me. Even if I did have a free hand, aftertouch still provides a very useful modulation source. Perhaps a dislike of aftertouch is due to a lack of imagination for its application. It's inclusion on the Voyager and LP is money well-spent IMO.
Moog LP (#0002), Moog Voyager RME (#0002), VX351 & VX352 (#001), Novation Supernova Rack, Korg MS2000R, 2X Roland MKS-80, Rackmount Roland Juno 106, HP ZD8000, Cubase SX3

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