After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

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capcap
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After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by capcap » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:51 pm

Has anyone experienced this? I couldn't find anything indicating this as a known issue..I updated from 1.2 to 1.4 and now the first 8 osc's have dropped in volume. If I deselect those, it plays just fine. I did the calibration introduced in 1.4 twice, reset to default settings, but no luck. There is no modulation going on, just an init patch. You can check a video of it happening here:
best,
Caspar
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uukyorf2jze8v ... 2.mov?dl=0

VocoVacca
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Re: After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by VocoVacca » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:13 pm

Interesting! After updating to 1.4, and running the calibration, voices 15 and 16 on my One got noticeably louder. It happens with the init patch, but it doesn't happen with all patches. Looks like the loud 15+16 also doesn't happen when the amp envelope is set for a slow attack. I'm still messing with it, trying to find other consistent error conditions. Anyone have any ideas? Perhaps a bad voice card?
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capcap
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Re: After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by capcap » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:29 pm

Interesting, I'm guessing it's the same issue then. It could be that it is indeed the other 8 voices that have increased in volume. It's frustrating to not be able to use it in 16 voice mode. I wrote support a few days ago, but haven't heard back. I'm considering downgrading to 1.3 to see if that changes anything. On mine, the envelope settings don't seem to affect it though. But today I noticed yet another bug - some voices (always the same) seem to have a different 'scaling' on the filter envelope. So the filter will open slightly less on those. At a certain point, if you set the LPF really low, it feels like they'll disappear. It makes for a pretty un-even sound unfortunately. It doesn't happen if you use the SVF in lowpass mode though, so it seems its a LPF issue. I'll make a separate topic for this. :-/

MaxMaxMax
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Re: After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by MaxMaxMax » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:22 am

:( what a shame... Incredible buggy synth... This happened also with the 1.2? i'm at 1.3 and don't know if to do the update for now, what about?

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Matthias Adloff
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Re: After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by Matthias Adloff » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:38 pm

Yes, this is a buggy synth. On the other hand, it is great instrument in another, quite special way. Moog must have been close to the financial limits with its development, so they decided to release it in a very early state. Dave Smith hardware is much more mature these days, but I also remember the 08... it was a similar game.

Anyways, I measured my outputs for another reason (R/L inconsistency), and they are far from being well calibrated. I hope that can be easily done, preferably with software, or at least by myself when unscrewing the One. I would not really like to send it in to get a unit with errors again. This is already my second Moog One.

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Matthias Adloff
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Re: After 1.4 update - first 8 of 16 osc have dropped in volume

Post by Matthias Adloff » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:44 pm

capcap wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:51 pm [...]
best,
Caspar
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uukyorf2jze8v ... 2.mov?dl=0
Woaw. This is extreme. Didn't watch it before writing my previous post, my fault.

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