New product @ Musik Messe!!!
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I was thinking about the wood vs no wood for a new, possible "lower-end" Moog synth. They could just go the route of the MoogerFoogers and add the thin wood panels to the sidestheglyph wrote:The microkorg has wooden side panels! It's better than no wood at all.
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In my mind, the coolest thing would be a MinimoogD markII. That is, a minimoog D alike model, but with stable oscillators, extra LFO and preferably osc sync and BP/HP. (I really enjoyed those new features on the Voyager.)
Remove the touchpad, the memory, the midi-controll features, the surplus in/out jacks, one modulation bus, the dual filter, the lcd-display and it's hidden menues/functions - and gives us a more barebone, "classic" minimoog - hopefully a more simple design would give a more modelD-like sound.. (more low end and hifreq sparkle)
All this should make it possible to produce a considerably cheaper analog synth than what Voyager costs. I don't know what Moogmusic has up their sleave, but this would be the ultimate thing in my mind anyway.. One can dream...
Remove the touchpad, the memory, the midi-controll features, the surplus in/out jacks, one modulation bus, the dual filter, the lcd-display and it's hidden menues/functions - and gives us a more barebone, "classic" minimoog - hopefully a more simple design would give a more modelD-like sound.. (more low end and hifreq sparkle)
All this should make it possible to produce a considerably cheaper analog synth than what Voyager costs. I don't know what Moogmusic has up their sleave, but this would be the ultimate thing in my mind anyway.. One can dream...
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well my initial idea was a more inexpensive new moog monosynth, and to be frank I could well live without a lot of features in Voyager - namely the ones I listed. I think the Voyager sounds just fine (though I found it maybe a bit too mellow). Anyway, moogmusic should but back the accuarate res.tracking and filtertracking on the glide function in whatever they do IMO, these features are important!
If they did a minimoogD alike synth using the technology from Voyager, with a couple of additions from Voyager (like sync and BP/HP), then it should be consirably cheaper than the Voyager. The Vger prices here in Europe are terribly inflated, compared to what people pay in America. I payed almost 4300 dollars for mine a couple of years ago (the list price was about 4650 dollars).
I did sell my Voyager because I realized it didn't work practically for me then. It did take my a long while to sell it, and I fineally did it at a great loss. The store that bought it from me, still has it in inventory (they got it about 9 months ago). It was in absolute pristine condition. This leads me to wonder how many units Moogmusic sells these days. I guess they need a cheaper unit that can reach a bigger market. The Voyagers are really expensive here in Europe.
Of course, this is all moot since the new synth is already designed and ready to be unveiled, but in my mind this would be the best way to get more units sold. When people buys a moog (new or old), they want the basic moogsound. Giving us a more classic barebone modelD synth would be the way to go IMO.
If they did a minimoogD alike synth using the technology from Voyager, with a couple of additions from Voyager (like sync and BP/HP), then it should be consirably cheaper than the Voyager. The Vger prices here in Europe are terribly inflated, compared to what people pay in America. I payed almost 4300 dollars for mine a couple of years ago (the list price was about 4650 dollars).
I did sell my Voyager because I realized it didn't work practically for me then. It did take my a long while to sell it, and I fineally did it at a great loss. The store that bought it from me, still has it in inventory (they got it about 9 months ago). It was in absolute pristine condition. This leads me to wonder how many units Moogmusic sells these days. I guess they need a cheaper unit that can reach a bigger market. The Voyagers are really expensive here in Europe.
Of course, this is all moot since the new synth is already designed and ready to be unveiled, but in my mind this would be the best way to get more units sold. When people buys a moog (new or old), they want the basic moogsound. Giving us a more classic barebone modelD synth would be the way to go IMO.
What makes you think they designed a new synth?
I hope they are not coming up with a new synth. I would like to see Moog come up with something that would enhance the current product lineup. I don't want to see a less expensive and fewer features repeat product. If they do come up with a new synth, I hope it's innovative, different and priced appropriately. I don't want a further stripped down version of a Voyager. That already exists as the Rack Mount Edition.
I hope they are not coming up with a new synth. I would like to see Moog come up with something that would enhance the current product lineup. I don't want to see a less expensive and fewer features repeat product. If they do come up with a new synth, I hope it's innovative, different and priced appropriately. I don't want a further stripped down version of a Voyager. That already exists as the Rack Mount Edition.
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Some non-new-synth suggestions:
- Voyager-compatible Headphones
- A serious amp
- A standalone duophonic sequencer/dual arpeggiator box with an integrated mini synth (that could be used as a sequencer and a drum box)
- An easily playable (quantised) Handheld Mini theremin with a separate drone (Theremini)
- A duophonic/bifunctional ribbon controller box
- A looperfooger. Something you can create loops with, including murflike sequences and arpeggios, wit a small beatbox consisting of three basic sounds.
- Voyager-compatible Headphones
- A serious amp
- A standalone duophonic sequencer/dual arpeggiator box with an integrated mini synth (that could be used as a sequencer and a drum box)
- An easily playable (quantised) Handheld Mini theremin with a separate drone (Theremini)
- A duophonic/bifunctional ribbon controller box
- A looperfooger. Something you can create loops with, including murflike sequences and arpeggios, wit a small beatbox consisting of three basic sounds.
Uh, ok... I though I read that it was a new keyboard moog was coming out with at musikmesse... Oh well.. It was a nice idea at least..
I still disagree with a new synth from moogmusic being a bad idea. Sounds more like a typical argument from someone who has shelled out of thousands of dollars on their voyager, and wouldn't like to know that there was a new moog toy out that they didn't have. I think a more simple and hands on version of the voyager would be great, especially for the able keyboardist using it as a lead instrument.
I still disagree with a new synth from moogmusic being a bad idea. Sounds more like a typical argument from someone who has shelled out of thousands of dollars on their voyager, and wouldn't like to know that there was a new moog toy out that they didn't have. I think a more simple and hands on version of the voyager would be great, especially for the able keyboardist using it as a lead instrument.
At this point it is all speculation.
If you read the entire thread there are guesses that the new product is a Taurus, a moogerfooger, a sequencer, and even a drum machine.
The speculation on this thread has been fun; look at the number of posts...
I think that the new product being a keyboard makes the most sense, since there would be less development, and a cheaper unit appears to be desired, based on the posts here.
We will soon find out.....
If you read the entire thread there are guesses that the new product is a Taurus, a moogerfooger, a sequencer, and even a drum machine.
The speculation on this thread has been fun; look at the number of posts...
I think that the new product being a keyboard makes the most sense, since there would be less development, and a cheaper unit appears to be desired, based on the posts here.
We will soon find out.....
Thanks Bob!!
I take offense of your statement. You don't know me. Perhaps you might think that way if you "shelled out" thousands of dollars, but not me. Using your subjective and empty logic, one could surmise that your argument for a stripped down synth is that you are a too-cheap-wannebee. But then again, I don't know you, and it wouldn't be right to call you that.KarnEvil wrote:Uh, ok... I though I read that it was a new keyboard moog was coming out with at musikmesse... Oh well.. It was a nice idea at least..
I still disagree with a new synth from moogmusic being a bad idea. Sounds more like a typical argument from someone who has shelled out of thousands of dollars on their voyager, and wouldn't like to know that there was a new moog toy out that they didn't have. I think a more simple and hands on version of the voyager would be great, especially for the able keyboardist using it as a lead instrument.
I'm more interested in Moog offering tools to enhance their current product line. I want to see something different and innovative. Something that will push the Moog envelope. If it's a new keyboard, then I hope it does things the Voyager can't. Perhaps a poly board with innovative features. If you are looking for an inexpensive mono board, then look at the new Evolver.
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I take offense of your statement. You don't know me. Perhaps you might think that way if you "shelled out" thousands of dollars, but not me. Using your subjective and empty logic, one could surmise that your argument for a stripped down synth is that you are a too-cheap-wannebee. But then again, I don't know you, and it wouldn't be right to call you that.
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Jeez, you need to cut down on your intake of coffee...or something.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a more affordable monophonic model from moog, since the voyager has a lot of features that could be ditched and still have a great working/sounding unit. More choices would be great! A monophonic analog synth is what it is. If you want something "new" buy a neuron synth or something.
You're not gonna see a polyphonic voyager anyway, that's going to cost way too much to produce. Anyway, I'm done with arguing about an imaginary synth model. The musicmesse isn't far away now, so we'll see what moogmusic has up their sleave soon enough.
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Jeez, you need to cut down on your intake of coffee...or something.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a more affordable monophonic model from moog, since the voyager has a lot of features that could be ditched and still have a great working/sounding unit. More choices would be great! A monophonic analog synth is what it is. If you want something "new" buy a neuron synth or something.
You're not gonna see a polyphonic voyager anyway, that's going to cost way too much to produce. Anyway, I'm done with arguing about an imaginary synth model. The musicmesse isn't far away now, so we'll see what moogmusic has up their sleave soon enough.
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