It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
I just now - today - realized that the CP-251 Sample and Hold has two different outputs. I've been running output 1 through the lag processor to get a "smoothed" sample and hold for years. I just realized that output 2 gives a "smoothed" sample and hold. Ugh!!
Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
I'm with you. I find it most helpful to read, turn knobs, read again, and repeat. Most manuals contain too much info to take it all in at once.
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Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
The manuals for these are great and worth reading and re-reading!
MemoryMoog Plus (with Kenton Midi Upgrade Kit) MF-101 Lowpass Filter, MF-102 Ring Mod, MF-103 Stage Phaser, MF104M Delay, MF-105M MIDI MuRF, MF-107 Freq Box, MF-108M ClusterFlux and CP-251 Control Processor.
Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
You'd think there would be some kind of a hint on the panel....
...just sayin'.....
...just sayin'.....
Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
After I saw this post, I reread the CP-251 manual and found at least 1 thing new and interesting:
The Lowpass Filter cutoff on the smoothed S&H output is proportional to the LFO speed, so you can send CV to the LFO to control the smoothing Filter!
I have no idea how I will use this information, but it is interesting and something new to experiment with no less.
Another thing is the Noise output is 1.2vPP, which seems like a very low range for a Sample and Hold. I bet you could patch a better noise source into there and get different resulting output too. ...or run the noise out to a lowpass filter and back to the S&H to limit the range of noise and have CV control over that effect by controlling the filter.
The Lowpass Filter cutoff on the smoothed S&H output is proportional to the LFO speed, so you can send CV to the LFO to control the smoothing Filter!
I have no idea how I will use this information, but it is interesting and something new to experiment with no less.
Another thing is the Noise output is 1.2vPP, which seems like a very low range for a Sample and Hold. I bet you could patch a better noise source into there and get different resulting output too. ...or run the noise out to a lowpass filter and back to the S&H to limit the range of noise and have CV control over that effect by controlling the filter.
MemoryMoog Plus (with Kenton Midi Upgrade Kit) MF-101 Lowpass Filter, MF-102 Ring Mod, MF-103 Stage Phaser, MF104M Delay, MF-105M MIDI MuRF, MF-107 Freq Box, MF-108M ClusterFlux and CP-251 Control Processor.
Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
This is actually pretty important, as far as I'm concerned. That means your smoothed Sample and Hold will always be smooth at every sampling rate. I tried to duplicate the smoothed sample and hold from this thing, and my version is very "not smooth" at very low sampling rate.Bryan B wrote:The Lowpass Filter cutoff on the smoothed S&H output is proportional to the LFO speed, so you can send CV to the LFO to control the smoothing Filter!
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Re: It can't be said often enough - read the manual!
I guess an external LFO could be used and the internal one's rate would dictate the filtering frequency.
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Oh yeah, that way you can vary how smooth the smoothed sample and hold is at different frequencies.
I also learned a couple weeks ago that you can run audio into the input of the sample and hold, clock the sample and hold with a much faster LFO, and the output will be a sample rate reducer (or nyquist aliaser) when you slow down the external LFO.
I also learned a couple weeks ago that you can run audio into the input of the sample and hold, clock the sample and hold with a much faster LFO, and the output will be a sample rate reducer (or nyquist aliaser) when you slow down the external LFO.
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Makes sense indeed.
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