patches that create singing vowels ?

[ebo]

see Allen Strange's Electronic Music System page 158 Figure 9.44 Simulated vowel formants
patch is
Oscillator to multi to 3x Bandpass and 3x VCA to mixer

[MusicoNova]

Me asking some what different question - How you doing with vowels as per the info suggested? Ultimately where you arrived?

[_DemonDan_]

There are lots of guitar processors that have Vowel effects
(Korg's Pandora and EHX Talking Pedal come to mind).

But there's a Dual (true) Analog Filter pedal called "Wahoo"
by Sonuus that can do many things including vowel simulation:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Wahoo

http://www.sonuus.com/products_wahoo.html

Each of its multimode filters can be independently controlled by:
Foot Pedal, LFO, Envelope, or Pitch (!)

http://www.sonuus.com/products_wahoo_editor.html

[rarecomponent]

Me asking some what different question - How you doing with vowels as per the info suggested? Ultimately where you arrived?

Yes..getting there. But its a lot of hit and miss, using the 3C limitations of the early 70's I don't want to use new gizmos on the system so am building an x-y pedal which I think should achieve the Tomita type vowels etc.

[rarecomponent]

see Allen Strange's Electronic Music System page 158 Figure 9.44 Simulated vowel formants
patch is
Oscillator to multi to 3x Bandpass and 3x VCA to mixer

I didn't know of this book..Amazon have it for......£250 !!!!!

I think there is a PDF...does anyone have a link?

[tommyecho]

see Allen Strange's Electronic Music System page 158 Figure 9.44 Simulated vowel formants
patch is
Oscillator to multi to 3x Bandpass and 3x VCA to mixer

I didn't know of this book..Amazon have it for......£250 !!!!!

I think there is a PDF...does anyone have a link?

+ 1 to this! I've been trying to get my hands on the pdf, but to no avail! Anybody have it?

[misterpete]

Hi ebo!

can you get that Holy Grail converted to a .pdf somehow?
maybe if we pitch in to cover your cost we can it into the knobtweak archives?

see Allen Strange's Electronic Music System page 158 Figure 9.44 Simulated vowel formants
patch is
Oscillator to multi to 3x Bandpass and 3x VCA to mixer

[misterpete]

Hi ebo!

can you get that Holy Grail converted to a .pdf somehow?
maybe if we pitch in to cover the cost we can get it into the knobtweak archives?

see Allen Strange's Electronic Music System page 158 Figure 9.44 Simulated vowel formants
patch is
Oscillator to multi to 3x Bandpass and 3x VCA to mixer

[JohnLRice]

In a recent video test of the new Happy Nerding Fun VCF I happened on some vocal sounding "whoa wow" sounds. Jump to about 7:05: http://youtu.be/X114GA1280s

There is a new module called the RB1Robotto that is coming out (soon?) by soundmachines that is designed for vocal singing! I really want one! Here is an early test byt the manufacturer, 'vocal' stuff starts at about 1:30 http://youtu.be/lpkUkJ1fwIc

[Kevin Lightner]

Certain vowels can be realized by running one oscillator through a filter, then using another oscillator (usually higher pitched) to FM the filter via CV inputs.
The modulation waveform is often best being a square, but PWM can greatly affect the outcome and is desirable to have control over.
Filter freq, resonance and modulating osc freq and waveform are tweaked until the desired vocal.
With this above, I've been able to make a human sounding A, E or I.

[rarecomponent]

Kevin ...thats a superb tip...Works a treat! I'm getting those special timbres....any more patch tips there?

[MC]

I do know that Kevin's tips will work on a Voyager. Years ago I did a atonal piece called "An Aibo Libido" on the Voyager - I was just tweaking the panel while recording and I got a bunch of formant sounds from that. Unfortunately that was before the OS had MIDI CC control of the panel, otherwise I would've captured tweaking via MIDI.

[Kevin Lightner]

Cool that you got that happening.
Different filters can vary a lot.

The only further advice I could give you've probably already tried: vary the modulation depth to the VCF.
Maybe using an already hardsync'd waveform (for either audio or modulation) could make some interesting variations?

[MC]

Maybe using an already hardsync'd waveform (for either audio or modulation) could make some interesting variations?

That was definitely one of my tricks

[mico]

I have created a vowel patch with the Sub Phatty, believe it not.

It is utilized here in the first demo for my other project, The Black Sacrament - a Skyrim-influenced Worship / Ritual / Drone project:
http://soundcloud.com/theblacksacrament/encantation

This is likely to be the most "mellow", albeit still eerie, piece that you can come to expect from this project. It is called, "A Child's Conjuring".

Enjoy.

(All synthesis performed with a Sub Phatty.)