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How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:48 pm
by Gladmarr
I recently got an E-1 and I'm not too happy with the action/playability. The truss rod was way too tight when I got it, and now the action is still really low. It has buzzing and dead spots all over the neck. Has anyone else had any issues?

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:27 pm
by jethro
Mine seems to be too high and the saddles are almost at the bottom . I thought maybe it had to do with the string vibration.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:35 pm
by ColorForm2113
I played 3 different models at the last sweetwater gearfest one from the moog booth which was an e-1, another e-1 and a vo signature, both where out on the sales floor and athe action felt pretty comfortable on all of them. Did you order from moog or another store? Delivered or picked up?

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:20 pm
by cliffman
Mine needed a quick truss rod tweak when delivered. Action is good otherwise.
Ordered from Moog via Centaur Guitar.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:51 pm
by evol2013love
in general, buying a stringed instrument online will get you a stringed instrument that needs to be adjusted by an expert. That's pretty much just par.


love

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:59 pm
by zymphony
Got my E1 yesterday and the extreme buzzing, all strings, made it unplayable. The Moog User's Guide: "Your Moog Guitar has been set up at our facility by an experienced luthier... We strongly suggest that you play your Moog Guitar for a while with no alterations." That's called adding insult to injury. I loosened the truss rod a little and if I am careful the buzzing is mostly gone, but it still needs a setup. I am concerned that there is anyone here, even in Manhattan, who knows how to set up a Moog.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:45 am
by cliffman
Well, the action part of the unit is just a plain old guitar. Any good repairman
should be able to adjust the neck for you. And there is documentation on the pickup
positioning as well.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:17 pm
by stereordinary
The truss rod needed a tweak on my brother's E1 when we got it. I took care of it, and it played fine after that. It was just a little too tight.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:32 am
by pfedor
OK. Here we go. I bought direct from the factory. Can park a Frizby under the strings. Bridge is bottomed out so adjustment is a major operation. I'm leary about sending it back for re-set if this is the best they can build new. I will admit it's "B" stock, but that only applies to the finish, so I'm told. The rest of the story.
The MIDI is double noteing, not ghosting. I own 2 MIDI rigs, equiped with GK-3's, that I buiIt and setup. Never double noted. So I'm no nubee. I called support and they never heard of a Yamaha G50 converter. DUH!!! I was told the only thing he was sure of, was the Axion was used during developement. What a cluster at this point. That's all I got that's printable. :x :(

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:25 pm
by cliffman
Sorry to hear that. I understand the G50 was Yamaha's unfortunately brief license of the Axon tech, so it should work. G50 was only a product for a short time >10 years ago, so I wouldn't be too upset at Moog for not knowing about it. I found the Moog was giving a bit more output than other pickups, turning the sensitivity way down may help.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:44 pm
by pfedor
Well, I was never told the G50 was problematic. As far as it being old, MOOG has been around longer then the G50. If they had done their market research, they would have known there are still a lot of G50's out there. Oh well! This gets me nowhere. Thanks for the interest. Look for the secret switch.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:53 pm
by cliffman
I have no reason to believe the G50 would not work - as I said, it is a license of the Axon, and the Axon works great. (at least for me)
So I do not understand your statement about the G50 being 'problematic' - any statements made about the Axon should also be true for the G50.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:38 pm
by dr_floyd
The Moog Guitar derives note info to the 13 pin output from under saddle piezos, so it won't just plug and play into a system setup for the magnetic-based GK systems. You need major adjustments to track the piezos properly. You will get it to work.

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:43 am
by Gladmarr
I finally took my E-1 in for a proper setup by someone more knowledgeable than myself. After literally leaving the E-1 in the closet for months, I'm happy to say its a lot happier and nicer to play. I'm gonna try to make some real use of this puppy from now on......

Re: How was the action on your Moog Guitar when you got it?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:27 am
by RichardK
dr_floyd wrote:The Moog Guitar derives note info to the 13 pin output from under saddle piezos, so it won't just plug and play into a system setup for the magnetic-based GK systems. You need major adjustments to track the piezos properly. You will get it to work.


Thread zombie - if it's using RMC pickups and 13 pin you need to change the processor settings or change the processor. I play a Godin, and it was always... a little problematic with an older Roland GR-20. Boss' GP-10 thing came out, dirt cheap, so I grabbed one and discover a new page of settings - scale, and pickup type. This is common to the COSM Modelling units (the VGs), but unlike the VGs, the GP-10 also outputs MIDI. Set up for the RMC in the Godin, the performance is outstanding; the GR-300 model tracks amazingly well (nothing tracks like a real GR-300 'cause it ain't tracking, it's just reacting) and it handles fast picking and copes with harmonics well.

So if the Moog is carrying a 13-pin RMC Piezo-type pickup, get a GP-10 or later VG depending on whether you want MIDI, or just guitar synth/tracking COSM effects.