Weird key response during legato key stroke
Weird key response during legato key stroke
Hi there,
I recently purchased the Moog Sub Phatty and absolutely love it.
However, I've been recording with it this week and working with a melody that has a sort of soft legato sound to it. Unfortunately I am getting a weird response randomly when I'm going back and forth between keys. Occasionally the key will not respond and the sound glitches out and then comes back. It's super frustrating cause I can't seem to finish my recording in this style of playing. I thought maybe it was certain keys on the keyboard but I tried an octave lower on the keys and the same result. Maybe there's something in the hidden features I don't have right? I hope it's not defective but I still have 20 days with my guitar center return policy if I need to exchange it.Any other style of playing seems to work just fine. Help or advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I recently purchased the Moog Sub Phatty and absolutely love it.
However, I've been recording with it this week and working with a melody that has a sort of soft legato sound to it. Unfortunately I am getting a weird response randomly when I'm going back and forth between keys. Occasionally the key will not respond and the sound glitches out and then comes back. It's super frustrating cause I can't seem to finish my recording in this style of playing. I thought maybe it was certain keys on the keyboard but I tried an octave lower on the keys and the same result. Maybe there's something in the hidden features I don't have right? I hope it's not defective but I still have 20 days with my guitar center return policy if I need to exchange it.Any other style of playing seems to work just fine. Help or advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Hi jrivera,
The key thing about Legato (depending on certain settings) is that the envelopes don't retrigger.
If your SUSTAIN levels for either the Filter or Amp EG are set to create silence over time, then your legato notes will eventually go silent.
If you don't think that's the problem send me a PM and I'll give you an address to email me the patch, so I can try it on my Sub Phatty.
The key thing about Legato (depending on certain settings) is that the envelopes don't retrigger.
If your SUSTAIN levels for either the Filter or Amp EG are set to create silence over time, then your legato notes will eventually go silent.
If you don't think that's the problem send me a PM and I'll give you an address to email me the patch, so I can try it on my Sub Phatty.
_ _DemonDan_ _
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Thanks for the response Damon. I have my Sustain and release up pretty high, so I suppose this might be whats causing it.
Will definitely send you my patch, thanks!
Will definitely send you my patch, thanks!
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Another track is that with legato enabled, the velocity-to-amp (resp. velocity-to-filter) parameter has the notes more or less loud (resp. bright) in a not so natural way. It works better in staccato, I find.
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
I also experience this phenomenon several times on different patches where the tone suddenly stops, even during the buildup of a slow attack or during the decay and sustain phase of a sound while playing legato. My opinion is that it's a bug. I really 'hoped' someone else would spot this same bug, and here we are._DemonDan_ wrote:Hi jrivera,
The key thing about Legato (depending on certain settings) is that the envelopes don't retrigger.
If your SUSTAIN levels for either the Filter or Amp EG are set to create silence over time, then your legato notes will eventually go silent.
If you don't think that's the problem send me a PM and I'll give you an address to email me the patch, so I can try it on my Sub Phatty.
Thanks for posting this, jrivera! Maybe someone from Moog will be so kind as to look into this?
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Yeah it seems to be something funky for sure. Although I did recently go in to the hidden parameters and set the Envelope Triggers to 'Multi' as opposed to 'Single' and this definitely helped a lot. It still happens every now and again but certainly much better than every other bar when playing Legato melodies. Maybe give that a try and see if helps you out as well?
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
If you send me an example preset I can try it. If you don't, I can't.
_ _DemonDan_ _
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Dan, there's no use in sending you presets. It occurs on all presets, even the factory presets.
What's more, i even heard the same thing happening on the Sub37 of my friend!
What's more, i even heard the same thing happening on the Sub37 of my friend!
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Is there anyone @ Moog with ideas on this one?
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Wired things might happen if you created a MIDI loop. To check this, simply play the SubPhatty from the keyboard without USB or MIDI cables attached. Still the same problem?
keep on turning these Moog knobs
Sequence:
Prodigy * minimoog '79 * Voyager * MF102 * MF103 * MF104z * MP201 * Taurus 3 * Minitaur * Sub Phatty * MF105 * Minimoog 2017+ MUSE * One 16
Sequence:
Prodigy * minimoog '79 * Voyager * MF102 * MF103 * MF104z * MP201 * Taurus 3 * Minitaur * Sub Phatty * MF105 * Minimoog 2017+ MUSE * One 16
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
There's no midi involved whatsoever...till wrote:Wired things might happen if you created a MIDI loop. To check this, simply play the SubPhatty from the keyboard without USB or MIDI cables attached. Still the same problem?
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Strange.
keep on turning these Moog knobs
Sequence:
Prodigy * minimoog '79 * Voyager * MF102 * MF103 * MF104z * MP201 * Taurus 3 * Minitaur * Sub Phatty * MF105 * Minimoog 2017+ MUSE * One 16
Sequence:
Prodigy * minimoog '79 * Voyager * MF102 * MF103 * MF104z * MP201 * Taurus 3 * Minitaur * Sub Phatty * MF105 * Minimoog 2017+ MUSE * One 16
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Could this be due to a bad poychain setting while not even polychaining? That would be all the time, but hey I'm trying to help
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Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Thanks for the support Stiiiiiiive, but i never did any setting on that. It occurs out of the box...stiiiiiiive wrote:Could this be due to a bad poychain setting while not even polychaining? That would be all the time, but hey I'm trying to help
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw
Re: Weird key response during legato key stroke
Seems like there's no one @Moog reading this forum anymore...?Space Lee wrote:Is there anyone @ Moog with ideas on this one?
Sub 37 Bob Moog Tribute Edition | Sub Phatty | Win10 pro 64bit | MOTU 828mk3 fw