Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patches?

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by EricK » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:07 pm

"CP+ Phatty does little"
Comparitively speaking, with only 3 CV inputs on the LP, there is only so much you can do with the CP to affect the Phatty, even with the Phatty's cv output mod.

You realy need at least 1 fooger as an alternate voltage source and/or audio modifier to truly realize what the cp is capable of.

Or you can interface with your modular, but you will run the risk of frying your unit, as the manuals will state.
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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by winchavez » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:09 pm

that makes sense.

thanks.

the low pass filter is cool. or the murf (with no midi) would be really cool.

but I don't really want (or need) to collect "effects" units.

but I see what you're saying.

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by ChrisStack » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:07 pm

Check out http://www.youtube.com/experimentalsynth

The videos there may give you some ideas. I've got one coming soon that uses the LP and the CV mixer in the CP-251. Stay tuned.

Here's a quick thought... Use the 251's CV mixer to combine the 251's LFO with the LP's Mod Bus out to create a complex, tweakable LFO waveform. Route it to the LP Filter or Pitch CV In. A good starting point.

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by winchavez » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:25 pm

thanks so much, chris.

now that's a start. sounds simple enough and very interesting. I will try that. really appreciate that tip and will check out the videos!

thanks again.

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by ChrisStack » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:03 pm

You're welcome! Next step...

Run the CP-251's LFO through the Lag Processor on its way to the Mixer. Works best with the Square wave or Sample & Hold.

I really would suggest you add a Moogerfooger to your setup. The LP, 251 and a Moogerfooger make a great mini-modular setup. I'd suggest the MF-102 Ring Mod.

Have you seen this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN2ZElbIA5A
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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by winchavez » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:43 pm

chrisstack, thanks for the tip.

the ring mod is pretty cool, i've used one before.

but what about the low pass filter?

would that also work well?

having a 2nd Moog filter and envelope sounds kind of interesting to me!

thanks again.

gonna definitely look into a 2nd mooger now to go along with my LP and CP.

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by EricK » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:33 pm

Well with a 101 you could use that as an osc; you could sweep the noise or put a S&H on the cutoff freq.

WHat I really like is if you have fast filter sweeps or a S&H on your Synth's filter, you can use an external filter with a very slow resonant swep to build tension.

Some have claimed that it is redundant to have more than 1 lowpass filter, but really it's not. You have a modular, so you know you can't have too many filters (and yours already has several heh).

Check out what I did with a LPF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDE980r71zw

Post some pics of your rig, id love to see them.
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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by winchavez » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:22 am

erick, really kool video! beautiful! great set-up! fun, fun, fun. gotta love noise!

I've always liked the .COM stuff!

Would be awesome to have a Portable-22 system.

have always wondered which "sound better" between Moon and .COM

I will post some pics of my beautiful gear soon as I get a chance!

and thanks for the insight and tips!

will post pics, vids, and more eventually!

thanks again.

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Re: Please help with some CP-251 + LP Stage II CV/GATE patch

Post by EricK » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:33 pm

Thanks man.

Can't wait to see your rig.
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