help me to make an envelope with my equippment..

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vier-personen
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help me to make an envelope with my equippment..

Post by vier-personen » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:47 pm

I would like to play the ring mod oscillator or the self-oscillating low pass filter with midi. I have the doepfer mcv4 midi to cv converter, it works great.
but I would like to make an envelope. do you know a way to do this?

my gear:

mf-101, 102, 104z
cp-251
doepfer mcv4

thanks!

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Post by r05c03 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:01 pm

How many channels does the MCV4 have? 4?

In its simplest form you could use the MF 101 as the ENV by controlling the Filter Cut Off (assuming that you are not using it as the tone source). Turn the Cut Off all the way down then and plug one of the CV outs from MCV4 to open and set it up to open and close the filter an amount that varies according to the voltage output. But this would be more like a gate rather than an ENV with an attack/decay/sustain/ release type of thing. You may be able to use the AMOUNT input on the MF-101 to get more an envelope effect by plug the ENV out either directly or via the CP-251 in to it.
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Post by Alien8 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:57 pm

Patch the following:
102 OSC OUT to 101 AUDIO IN
101 AUDIO OUT to speaker (might need some kind of volume reduction here??)
MCV4 CV1 to 102 FREQUENCY IN
MCV4 CV2 to CP-251 LAG IN
LAG OUT to 101 MIX IN

I think that would do it. Then you can control the pitch of the 102 with CV1; while CV2 sends a gate signal to the lag processor, which you would have to tweak accordingly, that controls the audio volume of the signal by mixing it out... You would have a "poor mans" ADSR control over mix by controlling the rise and fall of the gate output. It's probably not going to work really well, but it should work. You may need to patch the gate to the multi out and use a combination of the mixer and lag processor to achieve greater changes in the 101 MIX voltage.
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Post by EricK » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:09 pm

I thi8nk theres an article on Knobtweak relating to getting the 102's carrier In signal to function as an envelope.

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Post by CTRLSHFT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:36 pm

EricK wrote:I thi8nk theres an article on Knobtweak relating to getting the 102's carrier In signal to function as an envelope.

Eric
+1, this works great, otherwise the lag processor on the cp-251 acts as a Attack/Decay pretty well. :)
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