Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

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Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by VCO » Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:05 pm

Was wondering what those that have a moog fooger analog delay pedal think of it compared to a digital delay pedal like the strymon Tineline or the Eventide Timefactor. I have a Eventide space and was considering the Strymon Timeline
But also am considering getting an analog delay. I know the moog foogers are coveted and expensive even though the minifoogers would be more cost effective I would think. Was wondering if anyone has both analog and digital and what they think the pros and cons are Thanks

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by FeelinDank » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:59 pm

I only have an Eventide H9 Max which does have the algorithms of the Eventide Timefactor but not the knobs. I also have an Eventide Space and a Moog MF-104m. Just a quick side-step: I think the Eventide Rose is probably the closest to the the Moog MF-104m in sound and features. I’d also suggest an older digital pedal with some built-in character like the Digitech PDS-2000 or Digitech PDS-8000, both of which have some cool features and interesting sounds.

I don’t really find the H9 algorithms *that* stellar, but I think the Eventide pedals have slight sound to them. The 104m is really only worth it if you’ve got some CV to feed into it, be it from a CP-251, synthesizer with CV outs, or an expression pedal (perhaps a “expression LFO” device). Putting certain effects in the feedback loop is a huge bonus, I like to throw a 108m or the 102 in the path for very unique sound scapes.

Perhaps some of the Echosex pedals are also worth looking at? ….they have a great sound and a cheaper price than the mf104’s currently.

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by VCO » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:53 am

I’ve never heard of the Echosex pedals

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by MRNUTTY » Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:42 pm

analog delay is duller, but more saucy; each has it's place the other can't touch.

personally, analog is priced more than it's worth. the H90 is a very cool pedal.
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2xMother 32, DFAM, Subharmonicon;
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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by VCO » Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:01 am

What would you consider an affordable analog delay that’s in stereo?

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by MRNUTTY » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:00 am

VCO wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:01 am What would you consider an affordable analog delay that’s in stereo?
hmmm, idk what's new in analog delays lately. I have a bunch of old DOD rack mount analog delays and chorus boxes from the 70's, plus an MF104 and Clusterflux.
VoyagerEB, Minitaur, LittlePhattyII, 4xSlimPhatty, Sub37, MF[2x101,2x102,103,104M,105,105B,105M,2x107,108M], 3xCP251, XV351, MP201;
2xMother 32, DFAM, Subharmonicon;
System 55 and Minimoog clones with lots of mods.

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by ummagumma » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:33 pm

VCO wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:01 am What would you consider an affordable analog delay that’s in stereo?
I don't think "affordable" and "analog stereo delay" belong in the same sentence :D

You could buy 2 mono analog delays though, and use them together. Behringer VD400's are cheap. I have two I plan to string together: they are too bright though. I want to roll off the highs on the delay signal

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Re: Analog Delay VS Digital Delay

Post by facon » Tue May 16, 2023 8:13 am

The debate between analog and digital has been going on since the 80’s. The delays you listed are digital, but they do try to model analog. IMO, they’re pretty close, but not there. Others will disagree. It may be worth it if you’re playing live and want presets. But if that’s your goal, the Suhr Discovery delay is a solid option.

I tried to replace my MF-104M with a Timeline and H9 for guitar, and I couldn’t do it. With guitar, there’s an expressiveness that I’m looking for when you dig in that digital doesn’t give me. It also feels a little less full.

The MF-104M is a dark analog delay. If you’re looking in that realm, I think the AMT ADG-1, Fairfield Meet Maude, and Maxon AD-900 are all top notch analog delays that should work for synths. I would also check out the Chase Bliss Thermae, but I don’t know if it works at line level.

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