I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

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I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by vibrolucky » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:19 pm

I'm sure this question gets asked at least every month or so, but I can't say that I have found a definitive answer....

I have three Moogerfoogers (12 Stage Phaser, Clusterflux, and Analog Delay) all purchased new in the past two years. I am working on fabricating a mount for them on a custom pedalboard, sort of like the rack mount then mounted to the board (I don't like using Velcro on pedals as it's not sturdy enough for my taste).

However, when I get to the power issue I always get hung up and a little confused. I admit I am lost when it comes to electronics AC/DC voltage/positive negative sleeve, etc.

So, I will keep my question simple: Does anyone manufacture a single power device that will safely & properly run all three MF's at once, as well as a few other standard 9v pedals?

Thanks in advance for your kind responses....!!!

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Re: I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by radioland » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:49 am

I use a Cioks DC10 to power my Moogerfoogers, and occasionally some pedals with "normal" polarity. The DC10 has outputs for different voltages (9, 12, 18) and offers outputs with 100mA, 200mA or 400mA. With different cables you can even combine Volts or mAs. Mine came with different cables for different needs, and I purchased a few more of the red cables for the Moogerfoogers. The "standard" pedals take black cables.
It works really well for me and I plan to purchase another one to be able to power all my pedals this way.
Before I decided to buy the Cioks DC10 I went through all the Moogerfooger-powering threads where I found this and other good solutions...

Cheers, radioland
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Re: I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by Alien8 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:57 pm

I love industrial Velcro. It's flexibility to change layouts and holding strength are a good balance.

Voodoo Lab make a few solutions that will work for you.
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Re: I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by slabwax » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:53 pm

I also use a Cioks DC10. It works perfect.

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Re: I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by radioland » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:34 am

I discovered something interesting today that could be very useful for us multi-Fooger-owners: The Eventide Powerfactor 2 (made by Cioks). It has even more power (2200mA compared to 1600mA) than the DC10.

Here are the specifications (copy&pasted from eventide.com):

"8 outlets configured in 8 isolated sections
Toroidal transformer with additional magnetic field shielding
4 powerful DC sections with 400mA each, able to power four Eventide Factor pedals
Mounting kit included
Short circuit protection of all outlets
Advanced LED monitoring of each section
Temperature monitoring
115V/230V mains voltage selector switch
Standard IEC Power Cable (included)
Durable steel enclosure with 2mm thick top
Size: 8.5” x 3.5” x 1.75”, 216mm x 89mm x 44.5mm (with rubber feet on)
Weight: 3.25 lbs , 1.47 kg
5-year warranty

Flex power cables included:
5 x Standard Flex type 1 – black with 5.5/2.1mm centre negative DC-plug
1 x Standard Flex type 2 – red with 5.5/2.1mm centre positive DC-plug
4 x Standard Flex type 4 (Eventide) – green with 5.5/2.5mm centre positive DC-plug
1 x Standard Flex type 5 – black with 3,5mm tip positive jack-plug
1 x Standard Flex type 6 – black with 9V battery clip
1 x Split Flex type 1 – black with two 5.5/2.1mm centre negative DC-plugs
1 x Stack Flex type 1 – black with 5.5/2.1mm centre negative DC-plug

Outlet Specifications:
· Outlet 1-2: 9V or 12V DC / 100mA each
· Outlet 3-4: 9V or 12V DC / 200mA
· Outlet 5-6: 9V or 12V DC / 400mA
· Outlet 7-8: 12V DC / 400mA"
artpunk wrote:Well, my Cioks DC-10 is on the way. I was impressed CIOK's service when I emailed their website confirming suitability & flex cable type needed and within 1/2 hour Poul Cioks replied personally. For future information/reference, the red flex type 2 cables are needed and here is what he sent me regarding hook-up:

MF-101: 9-15V DC / max. 100mA        outlet 1
MF-102: 9-15V DC / max. 100mA        outlet 2
MF-103: 10-15V DC / max. 100mA        outlet 3
CP-251: 9V DC / 100mA            outlet 4
MF-107: 9V DC / max. 200mA        outlet 5
MF-104Z: 9-12V DC / max. 200mA        outlet 6 @ 12V
MF-105 (MuRF): 9V DC / max. 300mA    outlet 7
MF-108M: 9V DC / 300mA        outlet 9

So with this information from an older thread, the Powerfactor 2 could be used to power an entire set of Moogerfoogers at once!
I made two boxes for my Moogerfoogers, one is powered by a Cioks DC10, the other is waiting for this...

Cheers, radioland
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Re: I'm sure this is asked a lot - Moogerfooger power issue

Post by Gladmarr » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:24 pm

Totally agree in the Velcro. It's basically useless unless you're trying to create a hair/fur collection, and it's so sticky and gross to get off later.

Have you tried the bike chain approach? I think it's a much more secure alternative to Velcro.

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