A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by unfiltered37 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:33 pm

Just start with a couple and get used to them before you get anymore. I only have the cp-251, delay, and filter (and mp-201), and have never run out of cool things to do. Once you start getting into cv, it's like a blank canvas, it's endless. Learn the technical side first, then make your patches creatively.

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by bamorello » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:52 pm

unfiltered37 wrote:Just start with a couple and get used to them before you get anymore. I only have the cp-251, delay, and filter (and mp-201), and have never run out of cool things to do. Once you start getting into cv, it's like a blank canvas, it's endless. Learn the technical side first, then make your patches creatively.


That's great advice. Thanks! I'll do that. Any recommendations on patches to start out with?

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by Croyote » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:19 am

stiiiiiiive wrote:
Croyote wrote:It's my favorite fooger, besides the delay and cluster flux . . . and phaser and . . . lpf . . .

Croyote, you're officially not credible anymore :lol:


Haha, Never claimed to be.

Bamorello . . . I have the original MURF and have never once thought twice about parting ways with it. I'm not into MIDI, but that might change soon.

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by unfiltered37 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:15 pm

bamorello wrote:
That's great advice. Thanks! I'll do that. Any recommendations on patches to start out with?



Well you have the 104m, right, so you can use the lfo to get cool choruses. I like to modulate the delay time very slightly with a square or S&H, makes it slightly unstable like a tape delay. Also I noticed in your samples, you mainly use the delay as an effect on the sax. I like to make the delay part of the patch, meaning turning the mix knob to about 2:00, and playing long drawn out notes so there is no distinction between signal and effect. If you hit the delay drive hard, you can get some really cool harmonics. This works well for bright signals, and the brighter the signal, the more I like to turn up the mix knob, because having more of the delayed signal will roll off the highs.

I use a pedal to sweep the cutoff on the filter, and that's when interesting things start to happen. The filter into a very wet delay sounds beautiful to my ears. The drive on the delay is a also crucial tool. With the CP-251, you can create a couple mod busses for filter cutoff and resonance. Try using the envelope cv output jack on the filter, plug it into the lag processor, and experiment with that going into cutoff, resonance, and amount of the filter. Also, use noise creatively. Noise is great for making things sound analog. The cutoff cv is the most drastic and creative tool you have, so I'd set up the mixer on the cp-251 to go into the filter cutoff cv. Mix an lfo, s&h, a little noise, and maybe the env follower, and use either of the - or + outputs of the mixer to make things happen.

I am not too familiar with the natural envelope and dynamic control of the sax, so I can't say what will work best, but just experiment, experiment, experiment. I guarantee if you mess with it enough, you'll be doing things no one has ever done with a sax.

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by bamorello » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:46 pm

I have to say that this moog community is amazing. Everyone's tips and tricks have been helpful! :D

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by slabwax » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:42 pm

bamorello

Great clips! it is great to hear the MFs being used for acoustic instruments. I use mine on gongs and a waterphone. I'd love to hear ore with the 101 and cp251. Please let us know as you upload more clips.

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Re: A few samples of the MF104MSD with the sax

Post by bamorello » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:45 am

slabwax wrote:bamorello

Great clips! it is great to hear the MFs being used for acoustic instruments. I use mine on gongs and a waterphone. I'd love to hear ore with the 101 and cp251. Please let us know as you upload more clips.


Thanks slabwax!!

I'll be posting more on Soundcloud in the next couple of weeks. I'll defintiely post them.

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