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Stop doing this to me Moog! I just got a second MF-104M!

I know, I have the Z and the M and just ordered this!

David Smyth wrote:Stop doing this to me Moog! I just got a second MF-104M!

Yeah .. same here loll

Easy enough to hit with a white stain... Take it to your local cabinetmaker if you don't have the wood chops.

Stephen




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heard they've improved a lot of things that result in less noise unwanted and better circuitry, its not just the delay times. that was some of the biggest complaints with the previous delay units

I don't know I love the noise of my 104m. it sounds weird and gritty ( in a good way) on its mixed all the way up but when you blend it all the way up it smears the sound in such a beautiful way

I just got my SD yesterday. After a bit of playing around with guitar, I thought it sounded pretty distorted and messed up. I had just about convinced myself it was broken. I A/B'd it with my regular 104m, and they actually sound pretty similar, but something just sounds weird about the SD. Has anyone else been able to A/B the two who might be able to tell me I'm crazy??

I prefer the sound of the M-SD to the 104M, but I can't play them side by side as I sold my 104M last Fall.

It's like a 104SD that actually works (and probably sounds a great deal better). Thankfully, Moog disposed of that whole "daughter board" idea years ago.

Does anybody else think that the LFO circuit seems more extreme . . . or is this because there are more chips and more time that be stretched and twisted?

I love it. I own no.45, and I bought it from Texas Guitar Ranch in Irving. They had one more in stock, and if no one gets it I may be tempted to go get that one too.

I am so amazed the 104MSD is already available... great for you guys!

Anyone know if the following only applies to the new super delay?

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The power supply, bias, and rail generating circuitry have all been improved for greater sound quality and reduced microphonics, and an Emphasis/De-Emphasis circuit has been added for reduced noise. Additionally, the delay-loop level matching circuitry from the 500 Series analog delay has been included for maximized feedback and mix stability.
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It is not totally clear which is the original spec they fixed. I am guessing the 104m, but they go on to reference the original batch of analog delays too.

Anyone know?

I can't confirm or deny, but I will say the gain structure on my SD is much different than my M. In fact, that's part of the reason why I thought the SD sounded bad. When I set the SD to the same game settings as the M, I had a much different sound - a bad sound. Once I realized the gain structures were different, I was able to set up the SD so that it sounded as good or better than the M.

I love my SD. It really adds a nice ambience and overal tone to the sax. I posted some samples in another thread.

Out of curiosity, where did you get your 104M-SD from? Ordered it when it was announced and I'm still waiting. I'm beginning to consider canceling my order and hitting some other place. Thanks -

kbmh wrote:Out of curiosity, where did you get your 104M-SD from? Ordered it when it was announced and I'm still waiting. I'm beginning to consider canceling my order and hitting some other place. Thanks -

I ordered mine on eBay from Fox Tone Music.

Nerd Audio http://www.nerdaudio.com

When I talked to them, they had a few in stock, ready to go.