Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

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Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by bwandice » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:36 pm

If so, how many rack units does it require?

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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Voltor07 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:17 pm

I believe that the rackmount kit takes up three rack units...at least, if my math is correct. The MoogerFooger rack mount can fit four CP-251's, and is six rack units, so it only makes sense that the VX-351/CP-251 rack kit would be three rack units. :)
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Stuka » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:23 pm

I'm using a rack-mounted CP-251 using the VX-351/CP-251rack kit ~

3U "tall"
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Vsyevolod » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:51 pm

3U tall, though the wooden end pieces are a little too long. You may have to remove them depending on what you have above or below them.

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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by EMwhite » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:04 pm

The official CP/VX rack mount kit includes a wooden block that you use between the two units and I'm guessing that it's height (oriented in the rack) is shaved just a bit shy of the normal end cheeks. (I bought the kit but mine didn't come with the block of wood for some reason!).

But proper mounting requires that you take off the end cheeks closest to your rack rails.

Unless you actually need to mount 2 x CP251 and have an RME with VX-351 and VX-352 you should just get the CP/VX rack mount kit and avoid the MF kit.
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Stuka » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:43 am

FYI -

You may also need to relocate the jack for the CP-251 AC adapter to a mounting hole in the bottom of the CP-251.
Not a big deal, actually - the rack kit and the CP-251 already have the provisions needed.
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Headphones » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:32 am

Voltor07 wrote:I believe that the rackmount kit takes up three rack units...at least, if my math is correct. The MoogerFooger rack mount can fit four CP-251's, and is six rack units, so it only makes sense that the VX-351/CP-251 rack kit would be three rack units. :)
I'd love to see what one could do with 4 CP251s! Probably overkill, but if you had all the MFs, then it'd be nice to dedicate 2 units to 1 CP251, and then you'd have a better organisation of cables and MFs.

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Post by Voltor07 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:15 pm

Headphones wrote: I'd love to see what one could do with 4 CP251s! Probably overkill, but if you had all the MFs, then it'd be nice to dedicate 2 units to 1 CP251, and then you'd have a better organisation of cables and MFs.
Overkill? Maybe. Then again I've always been one for overkill. I LOVE overkill! For example, run four LFO's into the mixer of one CP-251 and use the resulting waveform for modulation! :mrgreen:
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Indeed » Wed May 15, 2013 6:25 pm

I'm trying to rack mine vertically in a MF rack kit. Im figuring im gonna have to drill holes in the kit panel? I'd like to avoid that as possible, but am really trying to maximize my rack space....
Also, i figure i'd need to reroute the PSU outlet to the rear. is there anyway of doing that without buying that $18 CP251 MF rack kit? Any advice would be awesome.

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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Stuka » Wed May 15, 2013 8:17 pm

Indeed wrote:I'm trying to rack mine vertically in a MF rack kit. Im figuring im gonna have to drill holes in the kit panel? I'd like to avoid that as possible, but am really trying to maximize my rack space....
Also, i figure i'd need to reroute the PSU outlet to the rear. is there anyway of doing that without buying that $18 CP251 MF rack kit? Any advice would be awesome.

Thanks
I mounted my gear in a $30 On Stage vertical (open) rack from Sweetwater.
Works great - the open rack is great for patching!!

The CP/VX rack mount has the provisions to support moving the CP-251 PS jack to the rear ~ no drilling required.

Here's my "Dark Moog Semi Modular" assembled in the On Stage Rack:

http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.ph ... 65#p116812

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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Indeed » Wed May 15, 2013 9:20 pm

This pic shows how i wanna setup my cp-251, vertical, positioned next to 2 other foogers. I jur finished building my own fooger rack & i eant tk be utilizin every bit of space i have.....
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Indeed » Wed May 15, 2013 9:26 pm

Cant upload the pic, but basically its posted vertically so its relatively in-line next to 2 other foogers
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by David Smyth » Wed May 15, 2013 11:40 pm

Indeed wrote:i figure i'd need to reroute the PSU outlet to the rear. is there anyway of doing that without buying that $18 CP251 MF rack kit?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can move the CP-251's power plug to the rear without any kit. If you open her up (power unplugged of course), you should be able to simply swap the plastic cap (originally in the rear slot) and the power plug (originally in the side slot) over. If I recall correctly, the internal power cable isn't very long :? so it's quite tight to re-connect to the housing again, but not really a problem. Note: make sure the internal power cable is still properly connected to the circuit board before you reassemble and close her up.

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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Stuka » Fri May 17, 2013 7:54 am

Correct -

The bottom case already has a hole in it for mounting the PS jack, if needed ~
but there's not a lot of wire to work with on the PS jack!

Other than the short wire length, swapping the PS jack from the back panel to the bottom panel is pretty straight forward.

The CP/VX mount already has all the correct mounting holes needed to mount the CP, including holes to mount the PS jack on the bottom.
Haven't tried using the CP with the 3-unit MF rack, so I don't know for sure about that one...
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Re: Is a CP-251 able to be rack mounted?

Post by Vitja » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:21 pm

Can anyone tell me, does MF Rack kit comes with wood kit for the middle fooger (2 wood cheeks to mount them between the middle fooger and side foogers) ?
I now if you are lucky you get this with CP kit, but I'm not sure.
If not, then the middle fooger is not protected, as I've seen pics of racked foogers with some space between the middle one and others.
That just sucks.
I would love to build a 3 door rack with adjustable upper compartment with MFs and CPs and some FX racks under that, but I just don't want to spend 175 euros on just rack kit and without wood kit. I can do it by myself, but I don't understand the price of the rack kit. It is just a pice of metal with holes.

If I compare a 3 door Thon rack that is 6U with mounting on front, back and adjustable top angle for about 230 euros and compare this to MF and CP mounting kit, I must say that this is expensive pice of metal!

Is there a alternative to MF rack kit?

I can drill holes and paint myself.

Any suggestions?
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