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Re: Vocoder

Post by EMwhite » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:59 am

It's a DIY effort from a Muffwiggler (Aleksei) in Belarus. Folks that want an analog Vocoder are sometimes not sure what they are asking for because it results in a pile of hardware, especially if a high number (16 or 24) bands.

But this bloke devised a Vocoder using THAT ICs which are accessible but not cheap, however you'll need 39 of them (!!!) and the panel/board set alone is going to run you another $250 plus shipping. If you look at each of the filter boards, you'll notice that they are PACKED with parts, so not an easy built but a very nice one.

He has some samples and pics here: http://l-1.su/Vocoder.html not to mention some pretty convincing samples speaking Russian ala Kraftwerk "The Robots" :D
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Re: Vocoder

Post by ColorForm2113 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:46 am

ahh ok. yeah that sounds real nice. but i think i will start off with an Iron Lung or one of the korg synth/vocoders is i can find them super cheap
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Re: Vocoder

Post by namahshaman » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:56 am

colorform2113, As someone who has owned a microkorg, R3, and Radias, I strongly recommend the EHX pedal. I now use the EHX V-256 with a Phatty as my carrier signal and it sounds lightyears better than anything I could ever get out of those digital korgs. I actually used my Voyager as the carrier signal when we recorded, and WOW. Moogs make the best carrier signal of anything I've tried so far, which also includes DSI tetra, prophet 08, and nord lead.

Of course, this is all my opinion. :wink:

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Re: Vocoder

Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:19 am

Good to know, thanks! I've always been intrigued by the ms2000, maybe one day I'll get the BR.
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Re: Vocoder

Post by namahshaman » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:27 pm

Just so this topic doesn't dies . . . does anyone else have any suggestions for an analog vocoder?

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Voltor07 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:25 pm

I like the sound of the PAiA vocoder kit, but it is an extreme robot sound.
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Re: Vocoder

Post by ColorForm2113 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:17 am

it certainly isn't cheap but the new club of the knobs vocoder system looks really cool
http://www.cluboftheknobs.com/modules.html
My modular so far: Q104, Q106 x2, Q107, Q108, Q109 x2 , Q116, Q118, Q127 w/Q140, Q130, STG Wave Folder, Mixer and Mankato playing with Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251, MF-104M x2 ( STEREO!) Volca Beats and Bass, Arturia Beat step

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Re: Vocoder

Post by bradtyler » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:34 am

MOOG PLEASE MAKE A NEW ANALOGUE VOCODER... PLEASE! I beg you!!! Lol I'd definitely purchase one. I'm desperate for a good quality analogue vocoder but you just can't find them easily anymore, and I can't afford the money they do go for when they pop up on eBay :( come on Moog, make us a nice rack mounted one!

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Voltor07 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:19 pm

bradtyler wrote:MOOG PLEASE MAKE A NEW ANALOGUE VOCODER... PLEASE! I beg you!!! Lol I'd definitely purchase one. I'm desperate for a good quality analogue vocoder but you just can't find them easily anymore, and I can't afford the money they do go for when they pop up on eBay :( come on Moog, make us a nice rack mounted one!
Heh, you might find that a new Moog 16 band vocoder based on the Bode design will cost MORE than the $5k you'll pay for an old one. :wink:
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Re: Vocoder

Post by Analogue » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:41 pm

bradtyler wrote:MOOG PLEASE MAKE A NEW ANALOGUE VOCODER... PLEASE! I beg you!!! Lol I'd definitely purchase one. I'm desperate for a good quality analogue vocoder but you just can't find them easily anymore, and I can't afford the money they do go for when they pop up on eBay :( come on Moog, make us a nice rack mounted one!
In case no one has noticed Ray WIlson is prototyping Vocoder board (+ expansion daughterboard) right now over at MFOS. He is posting updates on his Facebook page, (not mentioned on his MFOS site yet at all).

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Music-Fr ... 8459534397

and he has posted to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACx_fzPM ... e=youtu.be

I myself wouldn't place money on Moog Music releasing a Vocoder.

Just as speculative but thought I should mention: If the Jurgen Haible boards ever become publicly available again, once legal issues are settled, his vocoder project I would think would likely be part of that. Massive build though and who knows. Juergen left behind an awesome legacy of pcb assets that had gathered quite a following in the DIY community while he was alive.

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Bryan B » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:46 am

I could see Moog doing a limited (but expandable) vocoder.

Make a 4ish band (or use a MuRF style chassis with the sliders!), have a frequency range selector (so you could buy 4 or more Foogers to make a full vocoder or one fooger to make a limited but cool vocoder) and have a chain in/out on the back for mixing them all together. I could see having a carrier oscillator in each Fooger like the Ringmod that could be chained as well for consistency (or not for fun experimentation!).

Technically you could probably buy 2 MF-101's (for filtering and envelope following) to make a 1-band vocoder, but that would get ridiculous to do multiple bands.
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Re: Vocoder

Post by Voltor07 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:39 pm

Technically, MF-101's would work in conjunction with MF-103's...but yeah, you'd need 15 rack spaces and three rack mount kits just for a fully functional vocoder... :?
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