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Vocoder

Post by Lengai » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:43 pm

I would like to ask everyone's thoughts on a Moogerfooger vocoder? I know the old Moog vocoders are big (and expensive), but MAM sells one and PAiA has a DIY vocoder that fits in a single rack space so it seems that something similar could be done with a Moogerfooger box? I have an Electrix WarpFactory, but I'd really like to see what Moog would produce.

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Post by OysterRock » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:37 pm

Thats always what I've wanted to see from the Moogerfooger line. Vocoding is such a versatile effect, you can process so much more than just vocals. People hear the word "vocoder" and automatically think "overused robot voices", but vocoders are so much more. Just think of a Moog CV vocoder..... awesome.

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Post by Lengai » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:11 am

OysterRock,

I agree. I use the Warpfactory for more than the robot voice too. It even has a robot voice button. It's a cool vocoder, but it ain't a Moog. I saw the older Moog vocoder on Ebay about a year ago and it went for $2000. It looked like a pretty sophisticated vocoder. My hope is that Moog will build a simpler one more like the PAiA. It seems like that would fit in the Moogerfooger pedal housing no problem. Maybe you could chain them for those looking for something along the lines of the older one.

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Post by OysterRock » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:20 am

I've been meaning to buy the Warpfactory. They're so inexpensive and the samples I've heard sound pretty good. For $150, you can't go wrong!

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Headphones » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:16 pm

I tried the Warpfactory as a vocoder, but honestly, it made really whiny tones, and didn't sound like Battlestar Gallactica Psylons at all. Sounded like a robot with a bad cold. You can get some interesting sounds from putting loops or drum machines in the thing, but the only reason I'd ever pick up another is if I found it for less than $50, or it was given to me by anybody who didn't want it.

I found a better vocoder with my old Boss SE70, but I lost that to the pawn shop. (Ouch!). But feed that a synth sound, and give it a bit of mic pre, and you're there.

As far as a Moog vocoder, I'm not really sure they're going to make one. Novation/Korg/DSI seems to have made a few already, and it might not be cost effective for them to make a CV controlled vocoder, and a pure analogue one at that. Oh I'm sure they could sell one, but why would the public want to buy one when there are other options out there?

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Re: Vocoder

Post by red » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:32 am

It would be be a challenge to build a pure analog vocoder (with at least 10 to 12 channels) into a moogerfooger sized box. Per channel you need two-band pass filters (also two low-pass for the lowest channel, two high-pass for the highest one...) and a ton more op amps to built the vocoder circuit... (analysis, synthesis, envelope followers, voiceed/unvoiced detector, ... some MIDI and CV control).

Here is my self-built vocoder Jinx-26 from 1982:

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Re: Vocoder

Post by synthaxe » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:03 pm

+1 On the Moogerfooger Vocoder!
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Re: Vocoder

Post by synthaxe » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:04 pm

Lengai wrote:I would like to ask everyone's thoughts on a Moogerfooger vocoder? I know the old Moog vocoders are big (and expensive), but MAM sells one and PAiA has a DIY vocoder that fits in a single rack space so it seems that something similar could be done with a Moogerfooger box? I have an Electrix WarpFactory, but I'd really like to see what Moog would produce.


I also think they should add a full fledged Sequencer to the Moogerfooger lineup.
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Re: Vocoder

Post by David Smyth » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:13 pm

synthaxe wrote:I also think they should add a full fledged Sequencer to the Moogerfooger lineup.


I definitely agree!

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Re: Vocoder

Post by ChrisStack » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:49 pm

Did someone say "Vocoder"? Here is some non-vocal vocoding with a Voyager and a vintage Electro-Harmonix vocoder...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NfR6rjYOsY

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Re: Vocoder

Post by ebo » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:06 am

+1 on a moog Vocoder
4 Vocoders and Freqbox....
http://youtu.be/V4YoQmw6erI

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Voltor07 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:35 pm

ebo wrote:+1 on a moog Vocoder
4 Vocoders and Freqbox....
http://youtu.be/V4YoQmw6erI

:shock: BRILLIANT!
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Re: Vocoder

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Re: Vocoder

Post by Kenneth » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:01 am

ebo wrote:+1 on a moog Vocoder
4 Vocoders and Freqbox....
http://youtu.be/V4YoQmw6erI

Awesome piece, ebo!

+1 for a Moogerfooger vocoder
I don't own anything that would make you jealous.

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Re: Vocoder

Post by namahshaman » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:31 pm

+1 for moogerfooger vocoder. (vocooger?)

and +1 for a sequencer. even if it had to be more the size of a CP251, or minitaur.

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