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Need a good reverb unit

Post by slabwax » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:16 pm

So, I looking to buy a new reverb unit to put at the end of my Mooger Fooger chain. The last Mf is normally the 104. I've been thinking about the Eventide Space. It's a lot of money,but if it all that and a bottle of Belgian then I might take the plunge. Does any one have any experience with it, or any other recommendations? How's the TC Nova or the Electro-Harmonix's Cathedral? If I don't need to spend 5 bills on a reverb I don't feel the need to. That said, I do have a lot of money in my MFs so I might as well do it right.

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by ColorForm2113 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:58 pm

http://www.strymon.net/products/bluesky/ this one won my heart. My friend had the cathedral, it is pretty amazing as well.
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by DeFrag » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:25 am

I have the Sole-Mate with an Accutronics tank (#9 I think) & it sounds great!

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by Vitja » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:17 am

http://www.knasmusic.com/index.php
this is not just reverb unit... it has also multi mode filter and a LFO!
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by EMwhite » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:56 am

I have a '63 Fender Reissue but am selling it as soon as I return from vacation. It's reknowned for it's classic surf sound but I'm a bass player and despite being tube based with a genuine (old school) suspended tank, the limited number of controls don't give me the flexibility I need (its less subtle and more violent sounding in my chain) Again, it's great for guitar players (obviously) and even for Phatty on sounds like "Thank You Bob".

If you can get over the fact that Strymon is DSP based, their products are really really good. These guys are mad scientists; I'd choose their pedals over EHX any day but it's a personal thing, you have to like the sound and be able to work with the interface (knob / switch setup).
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by Pantherairsoft » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:39 am

I'm a bassist and own an EBS DynaVerb.

I'm selling it on, BUT, thats because I just find I never use reverb and prefer delay. I do have to say though, that with a bass it's hand down the best reverb pedal I've used. I'm sure there's more studio rack based ones that would do a more advanced job, but for a pedal format it does an awful lot, it's compact, well built, no tone suck, true bypass AND well priced.

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by slabwax » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:57 pm

Hi All,

Thanks for the replies. I do have a couple other units. My favorite of them is a Knass Moisturizer. But that sets at the output of my SEM. So I was looking to pick up a digital box for the end of the foogers. I've been watching a bunch of videos on the Eventide Space and I'm digging it. So, I think I'll just bite the bullet and buy one in the next few months. I just picked up a great gig yesterday so might as well spend the money ( that's what you guys would do,right?).

Slabwax

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by Unfiltered » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:06 pm

Don't ruin the analog sound with converters. Get a tube spring, or use tape delay for ambience.

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by DeFrag » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:41 pm

+ 1
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by Unfiltered » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:55 am

or if you absolutely have to get digital verb, place it on the aux bus of a mixer, so you get the full analog sound of the MF's and still be able to mix in the verb. That's actually the only digital/converters I use in my chain at all. I record to 1" 8 track tape, mix with DAW reverb on the aux bus to 2 track stereo 1/4 reel to reel. At that point, I will burn to CD, but only because I have to. I have heard people say " oh well, since CD is 44.1/16 bit, I might as well track at that rate since you have to burn to CD anyway. Complete bollocks: the better the quality the tracks, the better quality the mixdown, regardless of format. None of the great albums of the past were recorded on cassette quality recorders, yet there are good sounding albums on cassette.

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by Krinor » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:32 am

Unfiltered wrote:or if you absolutely have to get digital verb, place it on the aux bus of a mixer, so you get the full analog sound of the MF's and still be able to mix in the verb. That's actually the only digital/converters I use in my chain at all. I record to 1" 8 track tape, mix with DAW reverb on the aux bus to 2 track stereo 1/4 reel to reel. At that point, I will burn to CD, but only because I have to. I have heard people say " oh well, since CD is 44.1/16 bit, I might as well track at that rate since you have to burn to CD anyway. Complete bollocks: the better the quality the tracks, the better quality the mixdown, regardless of format. None of the great albums of the past were recorded on cassette quality recorders, yet there are good sounding albums on cassette.


Totally agree with this. I've been through some digital multitrack recorders... I currently use a Tascam 424 MkIII audio cassette multitracker and my room ambience setup includes an EHX analog delay unit and a DOD FX45 analog bucket brigade reverb. This setup gives me a nice spacey sound. Not cathedral reverb, but a nice analog room anyway. I've owned a Solemate i the past. It was nice for guitar but sounded too springy for analog synths. I have realized that the only way to get a good, convincing reverb (apart from buying an old church) is to actually build a plate reverb. So far I've got the plate... DSP is nice, but it's like a vibrator: It will get you off something incredible, but it won't kiss you goodnight.

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by EMwhite » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:42 pm

slabwax wrote:Hi All,

Thanks for the replies. I do have a couple other units. My favorite of them is a Knass Moisturizer. But that sets at the output of my SEM. So I was looking to pick up a digital box for the end of the foogers. I've been watching a bunch of videos on the Eventide Space and I'm digging it. So, I think I'll just bite the bullet and buy one in the next few months. I just picked up a great gig yesterday so might as well spend the money ( that's what you guys would do,right?).

Slabwax


Hey Slabwax, how long have you had the Moisturizer and how does it compare to a 'traditional' tank reverb like the type that Fender has used for years inside of their amps. Having just parted with a 63' reissue, I'm looking for something with a bit more flexibility.

Also do you know if an accutronics tank can be connected to the 'head' portion of the Moisturizer? (on their web site they hint at such a thing just wondered if anybody has tried it?) I'd be interested in possibly picking up the rack mounted tank from synth.com.

Thanks.
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by slabwax » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:52 pm

EM,

I have had the Moisturizer almost two years. I love it. It's getting moded as we type. I don't know how it compares to an older fender type spring reverb. this is my first reverb unit. I've not tried the Accutronics tanks yet. I have been thinking about it. I don't play my springs and when I transport the unit I'm always afraid I'm going to pouch the tank. So an inclosed tanks is a better call for me.

Dean

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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by EMwhite » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:43 pm

slabwax wrote:EM,

I have had the Moisturizer almost two years. I love it. It's getting moded as we type. I don't know how it compares to an older fender type spring reverb. this is my first reverb unit. I've not tried the Accutronics tanks yet. I have been thinking about it. I don't play my springs and when I transport the unit I'm always afraid I'm going to pouch the tank. So an inclosed tanks is a better call for me.

Dean


Great, thanks. I'm not too interested in playing springs either but would be interested in hearing how it might perform with an enclosed tank. The big thing I didn't like about the Fender unit (as I wrote here) is that it didn't have much in the way of controls and while the tube based circuit that was in front of the tank was optimally architected for a guitar, when it comes to synth or bass, it just didn't do what I needed (or maybe I didn't spend enough time with it).

But these guys seem to have thrown a few tricks into the mix and the fact that they share mods, etc. really appeals to me. I'll be getting in line to buy one. Thanks again.
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Re: Need a good reverb unit

Post by slabwax » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:12 pm

I thinks you'll enjoy the unit. I use the filter on mine all the time. I haven't played much with the cv control bits. But as an effect box it rocks. Karl is also easy to work with. Make sure you get the mods done.


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