I was just wondering if someone could educate me on the differences between the original MF-104 & the MF-104z (also think there was a MF-104SD?)
Is the main difference delay time, and circuit chips?
Diffeence between Big Briar MF-104 and Moog Music MF-104z?
Diffeence between Big Briar MF-104 and Moog Music MF-104z?
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Re: Diffeence between Big Briar MF-104 and Moog Music MF-104
The main difference is delay time. The 104 was a limited run of 1000 units and has a maximum delay time of 800ms. The 104SD was a limited run of 250 units and has a maximum delay time of 1400ms. The MF104z is at the end of its production life, and has a maximum delay time of 1000ms. I'd estimate theres 3000-4000 MF104z versions out there (I bought mine in February, and its S/N 29XX).
Here's some information from Wikipedia, I hope it helps
"The MF-104 is a completely analog delay.[1] The effect allows the musician a delay time between 40 milliseconds and .8 seconds. However the most remarkable feature is the use of an internal/external feedback loop. The feedback loop from the MF-104 could be routed through another effects processor and back into the delay unit, allowing processing of the echos as they are being generated.
Released in 2000, the MF-104 was manufactured in a limited edition of 1000 units. A special "bucket brigade delay chip" was employed to allow the effect to be completely analog, however the supply of these chips was limited. The final units were sold in 2001 and the MF-104 Analog Delay remains the most sought-after of the moogerfoogers. In 2005, Moog Music announced the planned re-release of the MF-104, dubbed the MF-104Z. The new pedal will have the same functions as the original, but will feature a longer possible delay time (slightly longer than 1 second). At the same time, the MF-104SD was released in a limited edition of 250 units. The MF-104SD had a maximum delay time of 1.4 seconds, slightly longer than the MF-104Z."
Sorry I can't provide an answer on the circuit chips. I just know what sounds good, not how its doing it
Here's some information from Wikipedia, I hope it helps
"The MF-104 is a completely analog delay.[1] The effect allows the musician a delay time between 40 milliseconds and .8 seconds. However the most remarkable feature is the use of an internal/external feedback loop. The feedback loop from the MF-104 could be routed through another effects processor and back into the delay unit, allowing processing of the echos as they are being generated.
Released in 2000, the MF-104 was manufactured in a limited edition of 1000 units. A special "bucket brigade delay chip" was employed to allow the effect to be completely analog, however the supply of these chips was limited. The final units were sold in 2001 and the MF-104 Analog Delay remains the most sought-after of the moogerfoogers. In 2005, Moog Music announced the planned re-release of the MF-104, dubbed the MF-104Z. The new pedal will have the same functions as the original, but will feature a longer possible delay time (slightly longer than 1 second). At the same time, the MF-104SD was released in a limited edition of 250 units. The MF-104SD had a maximum delay time of 1.4 seconds, slightly longer than the MF-104Z."
Sorry I can't provide an answer on the circuit chips. I just know what sounds good, not how its doing it