Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

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Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:01 pm

With the new CV functionality, I've tested how M1's modulation signal looks like.
What you see below is oscilloscope screenshots of LFO1 set to a square wave. Notice that there is a substantial amount of smoothing applied and the square wave doesn't exactly look like you would expect. For comparison, the first screenshot includes a square wave coming from an analog LFO on a modular synthesizer.

red: Moog One LFO1 square wave at 5Hz
blue: square wave LFO on a modular synthesizer
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:07 pm

Moog One LFO1 square wave at 10Hz
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Moog One LFO1 square wave at 25Hz
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Moog One LFO1 square wave at 50Hz, notice the loss of amplitude for anything above 25Hz
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:11 pm

Moog One LFO1 square wave at 100Hz, the amplitude is only at half-range
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Moog One LFO1 square wave at 150Hz, the signal becomes distorted.
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Moog One LFO1 square wave at 150Hz, a close-up
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:23 pm

It looks like this heavy filtering has only been applied to the CV output and not to the modulation signal in the Mod Matrix.

red: CV output: This is a close-up of Moog One LFO1 square wave at 5Hz,
blue: audio output: the same LFO modulates OSC1 Mixer, notice a 3ms delay, but also a much sharper square wave.
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:43 pm

In case you think about using M1 to process external CV, unfortunately the incoming signal will be filtered as well.

red: a square wave from an external analog LFO @16Hz
blue: the same square wave going through M1. (CV IN > Matrix > CV OUT)
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red: M1 LFO1 square wave from CV OUT1
blue: the same square wave looped back through M1. (CV OUT2 > CV IN > Matrix > CV OUT3)
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by HookedOnSonics » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:36 pm

Very cool representation, thanks!!!

So, is this something physical or can it be normalized with code, eye for an eye type of thing, which I imagine is what we would like to see/hear?

Also, I'm looking around for an oscilloscope, what model are you using, suggestions?

Thanks!!!
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Re: Monitoring modulation through the CV OUT

Post by Sugar » Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:16 pm

I have Tektronix TBS2072, 2 channels, a huge screen and no fan.

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