Spacing (moog one filter) vs Voyager Spacing

[damasio]

I loved the spacing parameter on the Moog Voyager because of its wonderfull stereo effect on the filter.
I noticed the moog one also has this spacing parameter, but i can't manage to recreate that stereo filter effect with it.
Can anyone more experienced with this give advice on how to achieve this stereo filter spacing effect with the moog one?

[damasio]

Can anyone please give input?

[till]

On the Moog One there is no way of routing the SVF filters to different sides of the panorama as hard wired on the Moog Voyager.

Also, this spacing is only for the state variable filters available. And these are 12 dB slope per SVF. So the effect would be less deep. Also the phase shifting of this filter type is different from the 4-pole Moog ladder filter. So even if you can get this mono, the sound is not like a Voyager reduced to mono audio.

[GuyaGuy]

For the same effect you can duplicate a timbre and layer a preset with each synth panned left and right. Then change the cutoff slightly on one timbre.

[till]

For the same effect you can duplicate a timbre and layer a preset with each synth panned left and right. Then change the cutoff slightly on one timbre.

This would not result in the same sound, as the two layers are not in phase with another. On the Voyager, each filter get the very same signal with the very same phase. So the phase canceling is audible. When you use two layers, they cancel each other slightly due to tuning differential ("beating") before applying different filter cutoffs. So the spacial stereo effect of the Voyager is not audible in the same manner using layers.

[GuyaGuy]

For the same effect you can duplicate a timbre and layer a preset with each synth panned left and right. Then change the cutoff slightly on one timbre.

This would not result in the same sound, as the two layers are not in phase with another. On the Voyager, each filter get the very same signal with the very same phase. So the phase canceling is audible. When you use two layers, they cancel each other slightly due to tuning differential ("beating") before applying different filter cutoffs. So the spacial stereo effect of the Voyager is not audible in the same manner using layers.

True. For me those variances make a patch even richer but it depends on what you’re after.

If you want the same oscillators going through different filters you could use synth one for your oscillators with filters wide open,hard pan it, feed the output to the input, patch synths two and three to three to use external in and no other oscillators, then patch the filters to match with a spacing variance.

You’d only be able to do mono or paraphonic with that routing but it should be the same effect.

[ummagumma]

hey this is interesting info, thx for posting

always good to get more info on the Voyager, even though it's discontinued