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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby Iaamusic » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:48 pm

More power to others who are inspired by the Moog One, I guess.


Indeed!

If we all thought the same a poorer world it would be. For me it looks pretty much perfect feature wise and I am expecting it to sound awesome as befits the Moog name. I cannot believe the musicians, engineers and corporate team at Moog would spend 5 years developing a turkey!!

I want mine quickly I have two projects I want to use it all over.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby thealien666 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:50 pm

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the Moog One is a turkey. Not at all.
It's a fantastic machine, with literally tons of possibilities. But maybe the engineers got lost in the features and forgot about the fondamental building block: the sound ?

Anyway, I sincerely hope that everyone who gets one will be 100% satisfied with it, all things considered.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby timmy » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:04 pm

Iaamusic wrote: ... I want mine quickly I have two projects I want to use it all over.


I hope you receive it soon, too! I would love to hear some of this once its done. Heck, maybe this could be the catalyst to change my impressions of the Moog One.

Enjoy it!
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby conradk » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:23 pm

timmy wrote:I own many of their products: Polymoog/Polypedals, T1, T3, Micromoog, all of the MoogerFoogers, CP-251, Voyager, and Sub37.


I wan't going to contribute more to this thread... but... :D
I would value you getting in front of one and giving us your opinion.

I've been watching 'how the sausage is made' live streams. Moog has guts for live streaming production/validation stations, it is very obvious that the one is a very ambitious project and a complicated synth to build. I don't own a Poly but I've heard they are a bear to repair so the fact that the Moog one design/build is difficult shouldn't be a surprise. I follow the 'steinway' example, I'd rather have a solidly-built synth if it is going to be super complicated.

I don't know due to the differences in modern components if we can't get back to the imperfections/irregularities of the 80s, or if designing a similar sound is not possible with the 'modern architecture' and lack of available chipsets. Although my ears have long since been damaged by rock and roll, I still plan to work on determining which is more true.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby PhilAiken » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:55 pm

thealien666 wrote:I wouldn't go as far as to say that the Moog One is a turkey. Not at all.
It's a fantastic machine, with literally tons of possibilities. But maybe the engineers got lost in the features and forgot about the fondamental building block: the sound ?

Anyway, I sincerely hope that everyone who gets one will be 100% satisfied with it, all things considered.


The sound is fantastic, and the tonal range is immense. It just doesn't sound like 16 minimoogs in a box, and similar settings will give you different results. It is its own thing. It is capable of so much, that you need to make it sound the way you wish.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby thealien666 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:08 pm

PhilAiken wrote: It is capable of so much, that you need to make it sound the way you wish.


I don't think the One is capable of sounding exactly the way I wish, no. Because it can't sound like a polyphonic Minimoog D, or at least a Memorymoog. Which, for that much money, it should have been able to.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby PhilAiken » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:40 pm

thealien666 wrote:
PhilAiken wrote: It is capable of so much, that you need to make it sound the way you wish.


I don't think the One is capable of sounding exactly the way I wish, no. Because it can't sound like a polyphonic Minimoog D, or at least a Memorymoog. Which, for that much money, it should have been able to.



About that you are correct. I guess "the way you wish within its given tonal scope." It does not sound like 16 Minimoogs in a box, nor a Memorymoog. Fortunately for you, there is something that does - a Memorymoog.
A CS-80 does not sound like a Memorymoog. A Steinway does not sound like a Memorymoog, and a used car does not sound like a Memorymoog. I am not sure
why one would think that everything that costs a certain amount of money should sound like a Memorymoog, but I am certain that the design goals here did not include sounding like one. It is a better and more capable instrument than a Memorymoog, and yes, I've spent time on both. It can also sound more like a Memorymoog than a Memorymoog can sound like the One. But if you are looking for that specific sound, you should find a Memorymoog in good shape, or perhaps you already own one. There is also a boutique instrument called The River that is very much going for that sound and style, with its 8 voices based on the Moog Source, and while I've never played one, the demos are fantastic. I don't know if you are or aren't familiar, nor am I trying to promote another product on Moog's forum, but that is one modern alternative. Certainly nothing from DSI, Korg, or Roland will get you anywhere near that territory.
Maybe Moog opened themselves up to that comparison by paying homage in its appearance, but they set out to make a forward looking and ambitious analog instrument. In my own estimation they succeeded in doing so. This is not a reissue nor does it purport to be one.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby lushr » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:58 am

I’ll have to have another look on YouTube for the poly six comparison as I’d like to see that

Myself I’m not a fan of a lot of the sound design I’m hearing on the one. But I am a fan of the raw basic building blocks and there are moments in some of the Moog videos where I hear a sound I love. I found that King’s parts in that intro video we’re my favourite. I liked very little else.

That’s the thing it is a very versatile tool.

The other thing is that say compared to the Jupiter 8, the Moog one has no history. All of us have grown up with the sounds of the Jupiter 8 whether we are aware of it or not and that adds a layer of emotion and nostalgia that the Moog one can’t compete with. Yet.

This is partly why I want effects that emulate tape saturation and all that other stuff so that we can more easily add that patina of nostalgia to the music for those of us who want it.
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Re: Moog One vs Other Polysynths

Postby ummagumma » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:54 am

thealien666 wrote:So far, I'm really unimpressed by the One. Sure it offers lots and lots of possibilities, but the overall sound of it is uninspiring. I own a Minimoog D, a DSI OB6, a Prophet REV2, and a few other classic synths, and even a Korg DW8000 is more appealing, sound wise, than everything I've heard so far from the One.

I don't quite know what it is. Maybe is the digital audio compression from the different platforms, or the bad presets, or the bad players, or a combination of all of these from all the demos that I've watched, but it truly seems rather tame and dull sounding. Almost like, dare I say it, a VST.

Listen to the first few seconds of this video of the Prophet 5 (also from YouTube with the same audio compression), and tell me that the Moog One can sound like this ? Because I seriously doubt it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruh0B5QKBMs&t=1s

Or even like this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRI2dKjP2xU
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both those vids had a ton of stereo delay/reverb on them

I bet I could make a ONE sound better than both of those clips. ( someone send me a ONE and I will gladly demonstrate ;) )
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