Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

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str8sounds
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Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

Post by str8sounds » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:20 am

On day 3 of owning the Moog Sub 37, as I was scrolling through the presets with the up and down buttons, when I reached the end of a bank, the screen would read "Init Preset" and remain stuck there. Nothing I tried, including turning the machine off and on repeatedly, would allow me to exit that "Init Preset" screen, and the keyboard was stuck on some generic organ sound on all the keys.

"Init Preset" means initialize a new preset, create a new preset, which I was not wanting to do.

I finally accidentally stumbled upon a way to exit the "Init Preset" screen, by holding down an up or down button for several seconds.

I hope this does not continue to happen, getting locked into the "Init Preset" screen.

Does this need servicing, or is it just a fluke?

ObtuseMoose
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Re: Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

Post by ObtuseMoose » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:22 am

str8sounds wrote:On day 3 of owning the Moog Sub 37, as I was scrolling through the presets with the up and down buttons, when I reached the end of a bank, the screen would read "Init Preset" and remain stuck there.
Are you sure it was really "stuck"? The factory presets only occupy bank 1, preset 1 through bank 9, preset 6. Everything from bank 9 preset 7 through bank 16 preset 16 is named "Init Preset", essentially unused and available for you to save your own original patches. Holding one of the arrow buttons causes it to scroll rapidly through all the presets, so you would eventually come back to a bank with factory presets.

If it happens again, pay attention to the display as you press the arrow buttons and see if the preset number is changing as you press the button. If so, you're just scrolling through the (identically named) unused preset slots and it's not really stuck.

Hope this helps.
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seanpark
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Re: Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

Post by seanpark » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:40 pm

I think Moose is right. The Init Presets are not special, they are just patches with a generic name and little modulation. You may have selected a particular group of presets (such as lead, bass, effects, init).

Can you use the BANK and PRESET buttons to select bank 1 preset 1?

str8sounds
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Re: Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

Post by str8sounds » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:59 pm

Once I get stuck on "Init Preset", there is no getting past it, except for holding the down or up button for several seconds in Programming section. I will slow down and inspect what I'm doing, because if after Bank 9 Preset 7, it's all Init Preset, then that may be partly to explain what is happening. I'll check and get back to you. THANKS.

mikeh11
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Re: Sub 37 stuck on "Init Preset" screen

Post by mikeh11 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:17 am

Here's a list of the internal presets, with bank/preset number and category.
As you experienced, Bank 9, Slot 7 and beyond are indeed 'Init Preset's.
When you hold down the up/down buttons below the LCD screen, you should be seeing the bank and preset numbers changing.
Also, search around this forum; I know there have been several postings of the preset lists.

1.01 duo 'Rhythmic 5th Filtration'
1.02 pads 'DARK MINDS'
1.03 bass 'Bomb Bass Tick'
1.04 duo 'Duotronic Moogtrons'
1.05 classic 'BRIGHT PWM MOTION'
1.06 sequence 'AHSEEEED MOOGER'
1.07 evolving 'Octavia'
1.08 sound-fx 'BAD ATMOS FEAR'
1.09 duo 'Zaxxor's Revenge'
1.10 evolving 'POLEMICS'
1.11 evolving 'RUNNER RUNNING'
1.12 duo 'Werkers Unite'
1.13 strings 'STRINGOTRON'
1.14 bass 'Pulse Bass'
1.15 classic 'Gamecom 8Bit Chiptime Fun'
1.16 classic '1974th'
2.01 classic 'CRAFT LABOR'
2.02 distorted 'DAILY GRIND'
2.03 duo 'DUO ORG'
2.04 organs 'Organ 2'
2.05 pads 'CELESTIAL'
2.06 sound-fx 'EMO ALIENS'
2.07 duo 'The Zaxxor Chronicles'
2.08 pads '2D SPACE'
2.09 bass 'FAN+C B A S S'
2.10 noise 'COLD NOISE'
2.11 strings 'STRYNGTH'
2.12 lead 'SOFT PRESS 4 SPARKLE'
2.13 organs 'Orbital Momentum X85'
2.14 percussion 'DIRTY DRUM'
2.15 misc 'The New Disco'
2.16 classic 'L.A. Freeway Patrol'
3.01 misc 'Seeker of Truth'
3.02 lead 'Lyrical Theremin'
3.03 sound-fx 'THE L TRAIN'
3.04 bass 'PERCUSS DUB'
3.05 duo 'DUO WAVE MOD'
3.06 percussion 'Analog Kick'
3.07 woodwind 'KLARINETIK'
3.08 distorted 'CLIPPING A LOT'
3.09 classic '70s TV PI Theme'
3.10 duo 'A LONG RIDE'
3.11 percussion 'Cave People Drum'
3.12 duo 'Dirty Organ'
3.13 arp 'BOOM BAH'
3.14 lead 'SUNNY LEAD'
3.15 brass 'CYBRASS'
3.16 duo 'Eastern Alliance'
4.01 evolving 'HERE HE COMES'
4.02 arp 'RUNAWAY ROBOTS'
4.03 duo 'MASS 19-'
4.04 percussion 'Echo Chirp'
4.05 duo 'Gravity: Reversed'
4.06 evolving 'BEETLE ATTACK'
4.07 misc 'TouchBass'
4.08 evolving 'HELICCOPPER'
4.09 sync 'Underground Transit'
4.10 classic 'OLDE SYNTHE'
4.11 lead 'ODD ODE'
4.12 sound-fx 'Message From Outer Space'
4.13 sync 'LITTLE GRIND'
4.14 sound-fx '1970s SciFi Computer'
4.15 bass 'funk bass'
4.16 distorted 'FEEDBACK BEAT PATTERN'
5.01 sync 'No Resonance Required'
5.02 bass 'REZZO BASS'
5.03 brass 'DI^tOR~ED BRA/S'
5.04 duo 'ELEKTPOHNKA Telekom Net'
5.05 lead 'Raw Z'
5.06 bass 'LOW BASS'
5.07 evolving 'Trajectory Achieved'
5.08 lead 'OLD LEAD'
5.09 organs 'Organ Time'
5.10 evolving 'Sweep It try the weel'
5.11 percussion 'Industrial Machine'
5.12 bass 'RIGID BASS'
5.13 sound-fx 'Main Engines Full Burn'
5.14 distorted '5TH BOUNCE'
5.15 percussion 'SYNTH DRUM1'
5.16 sync 'RISING SYNC'
6.01 sound-fx 'BUZZINESS AS UNUSUAL'
6.02 bass 'BROKE BASS'
6.03 misc 'Carnival Freak'
6.04 evolving 'LONELY QUEST'
6.05 sound-fx 'The Triax Paradox'
6.06 sync 'SYNC/SNARE'
6.07 bass 'sub BASS'
6.08 evolving 'SPARKLESLIDE'
6.09 duo 'THE INTRO TO THAT ONE'
6.10 lead 'LITTLE LYRIC'
6.11 organs 'ORGAN GRINDER'
6.12 bass 'FRETTED BASS'
6.13 distorted 'NOISE IMPACT'
6.14 woodwind 'SOFT LEAD WHEEL BRIGHT'
6.15 sound-fx 'Alien Language'
6.16 duo 'SAWTEETH DUO DANCER'
7.01 lead 'SMOOTH LEAD MODWHEELSYNC'
7.02 lead '5TH IN LINE'
7.03 percussion 'Percolated'
7.04 misc 'EuroSynth- Tastic'
7.05 misc 'Dr. Press Growl'
7.06 duo 'Duo Distort Artifacts'
7.07 sync 'Hard Sync Hijinxx'
7.08 bass 'BASS MELT FACE'
7.09 misc 'Raymond's Caught'
7.10 percussion 'SYNTH GONG1'
7.11 evolving 'RUBBER BANG'
7.12 arp 'RUN!'
7.13 sequence 'B MOVIE'
7.14 classic 'Percusso- phonic Blip'
7.15 sequence 'Gyro House'
7.16 evolving 'Trill Pickles'
8.01 sequence 'Braid Walker'
8.02 sequence 'Acid Wiggler'
8.03 drone 'Minor Bender'
8.04 lead 'STG Liberatn Lead 2003'
8.05 sequence 'Dorian Electra'
8.06 sequence 'Distortech MW is Accent'
8.07 sequence 'Distortech 2 MW is Accent'
8.08 misc 'Acid Tracks MW is Accent'
8.09 sequence 'Analogue Native Dance'
8.10 misc 'Just Add Kick Drums'
8.11 misc 'Rubber Glass'
8.12 sequence 'What Time Is'
8.13 misc 'Funk Cowboys'
8.14 arp 'Space Banjo MW is Rate'
8.15 sequence 'Mushrooms In A Corn Field'
8.16 evolving 'ACROSS THE SKY'
9.01 duo 'Up in the Sky'
9.02 evolving 'Tastes Metallic'
9.03 classic 'TRIPLET 5THS'
9.04 arp 'Interstellar Express'
9.05 sequence 'Intercranial Voyager'
9.06 lead 'Sweet Lead'
9.07 misc 'Init Preset'
9.08 misc 'Init Preset'
9.09 misc 'Init Preset'
9.10 misc 'Init Preset'
9.11 misc 'Init Preset'
9.12 misc 'Init Preset'
9.13 misc 'Init Preset'
9.14 misc 'Init Preset'
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9.16 misc 'Init Preset'
10.01 misc 'Init Preset'
10.02 misc 'Init Preset'
10.03 misc 'Init Preset'
10.04 misc 'Init Preset'
10.05 misc 'Init Preset'
10.06 misc 'Init Preset'
10.07 misc 'Init Preset'
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10.10 misc 'Init Preset'
10.11 misc 'Init Preset'
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10.15 misc 'Init Preset'
10.16 misc 'Init Preset'
11.01 misc 'Init Preset'
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11.03 misc 'Init Preset'
11.04 misc 'Init Preset'
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11.06 misc 'Init Preset'
11.07 misc 'Init Preset'
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11.09 misc 'Init Preset'
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11.14 misc 'Init Preset'
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12.01 misc 'Init Preset'
12.02 misc 'Init Preset'
12.03 misc 'Init Preset'
12.04 misc 'Init Preset'
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13.01 misc 'Init Preset'
13.02 misc 'Init Preset'
13.03 misc 'Init Preset'
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14.01 misc 'Init Preset'
14.02 misc 'Init Preset'
14.03 misc 'Init Preset'
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14.10 misc 'Init Preset'
14.11 misc 'Init Preset'
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15.01 misc 'Init Preset'
15.02 misc 'Init Preset'
15.03 misc 'Init Preset'
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16.01 misc 'Init Preset'
16.02 misc 'Init Preset'
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16.16 misc 'Init Preset'
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