Distortion pedal for sub37

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Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by macsaif » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:10 pm

Hello,

can you recommend some distortion pedal for sub37 which can achieve the similar distortion as LP?
I am planning to connect it btw sub37 and delay. The other possibility is to connect the output of the pedal to the feedback input of the sub37.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by muleskinner » Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:49 pm

Not really a pedal and maybe a bit expensive but Sherman Filterbank + Sub 37 = Awesome.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by jsharpphoto » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:15 pm

Bass Big Muff Pi Deluxe.

It has a blend knob to mix the dry signal, a gate to limit the hum, and a crossover. The crossover will send the distortion through a high pass, and the dry signal through a low pass, each with its own cutoff. And the crossover is activated by its own switch.

It's like $130. It's crazy how flexible it is, especially for something from the Muff lineup.

AND. it has a buffered dry output, which you can send back into the audio input to further drive the filter.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by muleskinner » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:53 am

Haha - that pedal looks awesome actually. Might get one!
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by macsaif » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:24 pm

Is the Big muff symmetrical clipping? As I know the big difference btw the Sub 37 and LP is that the Sub 37 is sym clipping and the LP is asymm clipping. Do you have any sound samples using Big Muff with synth? Does it have similar distortion as LP?
Anyhow it looks interesting.

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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by jsharpphoto » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:18 am

I'm not sure how close it is to to the little phatty filter overdrive, because I don't have one. It is very similar in some settings to the multi drive on my sub37, but not exactly the same. It's great, but it's not exactly the same. Nothing will be.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by braddo » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:58 pm

The question about symmetric or asymmetric clipping yielded this informative google result:

http://www.geofex.com/effxfaq/distn101.htm

Very interesting, but since I don't have lots of experience listening critically to overdrive/distortion/fuzz effects it's not so useful to me.

I did pick up an EHX bass deluxe big muff pi for my sub37 the other day and it sounds, ... fuzzy. Twiddling the crossover knobs etc is again, interesting, but I find defeating all of the bells and whistles give the most pleasing result, as most of it just rolls off the effect on the bass to allow more of a clean tone underneath. Of course I like the clean tone, but don't find limiting the fuzz to the top end that nice.

Funny the article above calls out the approach used in the big muff pi specifically as "Widely held to be an example of what is wrong with transistors for musical instruments" hah!

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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by Spazige » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:00 pm

I really like the Malekko Diabolik Bass Fuzz pedal.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by fwilleke » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:24 pm

For distorting my Sub 37, I use nothing as often as the Waldorf 2-Pole Filter.
Fantastic distortion possibilities with unique characters: Overdriving the input stage, rectifier, and post-filter overdrive.
Nothing else squeezes the juice from the Sub 37 as sweet as the 2-Pole :)
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by fwilleke » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:49 am

Small addition: I've written a very short article about the 2-Pole on the Sub 37 Cookbook:
http://sub37cookbook.frankwilleke.de/gear/waldorf-2-pole-analog-filter/
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by Flareless » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:46 am

Jumped into this one late and I don't know if you've made a choice already but I'm throwing in another vote for the Bass Big Muff PI Deluxe. It is extremely flexible and I've been able to create some awesome sounds utilizing its unique distortion and filtering capabilities.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by macsaif » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:24 am

At the moment no decision. I have been on holiday during last two weeks. Originally I was thinking about BOSS DS1 or SD1. Is there any comparison btw. DS1, SD1 and Big Buff? Is it worth the extra money comparing to the Boss pedals?

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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by macsaif » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:54 am

I have checked the link to Waldorf 2-pole and it seems very interesting too. Do you have some more sound samples (leads) which can be produced combined with sub 37?

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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by fwilleke » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:59 am

I don't have any examples at hand currently, but I'll be in the studio tonight, maybe I find the time for some more sound examples.
Can't promise it, though.
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Re: Distortion pedal for sub37

Post by muleskinner » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:26 pm

macsaif wrote:At the moment no decision. I have been on holiday during last two weeks. Originally I was thinking about BOSS DS1 or SD1. Is there any comparison btw. DS1, SD1 and Big Buff? Is it worth the extra money comparing to the Boss pedals?


DS1 is distortion rather than fuzz. Personally I hate the DS1 though some people love it. I'd have thought it's more suited to guitar.

That Waldorf 2-pole looks really interesting - kind of like a mini Sherman Filterbank. I'd go for one of those!
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