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Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:15 pm
by franklinstower
I received my new sub 37 today and am having a problem that I am certain is due to my stupidity!!

The presets all work but when I switch to panel mode I only get a single clicking sound with each press of any key. I have moved every switch on the panel and it does not change it. What am I doing wrong? :oops:

Re: Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:24 pm
by GregVDS
Hi,

it can be daunting at first, no panic :-).

I single click can be due to a very short and not sustaining envelope. Just turn the Amp Envelope Sustain all the way up, and you should hear a sound for each note. If that is the case, do keep in mind the envelope has 3 time parameters and 1 volume or height parameters: Attack is the time sound goes from 0 to full, decay is the time sound goes from full to the sustain level, set by sustain, and release is the time the sound takes to come back to 0 after you stopped pushing a key. So, everything at zero is good for time maybe, but sustain at zero, and your envelope is more or less never opening, apart for a very brief 0 to full to 0, as fast as the envelope electronic can do that.

Let us know if you managed to obtain a sound with this.

Have fun, and don't forget to add your characteristics to the SN Sub37 list here:http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23186

Greg

Re: Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:30 pm
by franklinstower
Thank you! That did it and apparently I did not tweak every knob on the thing or else I would not have missed this. This is my first synth ever.

Re: Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:53 pm
by GregVDS
What you can do is select an empty preset 'Init Preset', and move slightly one knob at a time, trying to find the setting that reproduces the sound of the init preset.
When you're done, your panel will be set up for a very simple synth sound, and you'll know more or less why and what does each knob. From there, go on and explore.
Try to go from the OSC section, to the MIXER, then FILTER, then to the ENVELOPES. Once you managed that, go and play with the MOD section, GLIDE and ARP. I found it easier to learn the synthesis and the Sub37 following that path.

All the best,

Greg

Re: Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:30 pm
by mattyp
Also read lots. There are plenty of resources out there giving really useful insight into the world of synthesis. Above all, have fun.
Good luck

Re: Noob question about sub 37

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:45 am
by _DemonDan_
GregVDS wrote:What you can do is select an empty preset 'Init Preset', and move slightly one knob at a time, trying to find the setting that reproduces the sound of the init preset.
When you're done, your panel will be set up for a very simple synth sound, and you'll know more or less why and what does each knob. From there, go on and explore.
Words to synth by.
Well said, Greg.