Moog Music Forum

IgorCristo wrote:Just tested it...

Here's how it's working:
- When local control is OFF, you can only control the internal knobs if you allow them to send MIDI to the DAW/App/Software you're using. When local control is OFF you can't control the keyboard/knobs directly, and you control it via MIDI. Some of you may like this, but I don't like stuck with 7-bit MIDI.
- If you use MIDI OUT Filter and allows only the passage of the keyboard notes, you can't control the Sub Phatty over MIDI, and you don't get any kind of sonic change while moving the knobs. I don't think this is a bug with my own Sub, but let me know if it is!

What am I looking for:
- A solution that makes the LOCAL CONTROLL OFF only for the key part, while being able to control the Sub's knobs to alter parameters in real time. This would be the best solution for using external arpeggiators just to have some fun with the Sub Phatty.

Amos wrote:got it... can do.

barryfell wrote: I see. I incorrectly assumed the panel changes were direct, where as they are in fact routed via the DAW when in local control OFF mode. You are looking for a solution for hardware arpeggiators for example, which don't loop control midi data. Apologies.

Sir Nose wrote:^
I've always wanted that feature for the stage! Local keyboard control off, but sent via midi, while the knobs control the phatty, CCs preferably not sent (or toggle-able). It would be a huge power up in my LP+OT setup.

DUBMCT wrote:Also, any chance the headphone out will ever be independent to the master volume?

Amos wrote:MuzzFuzz:the headphone level is a passive control, and it is indeed wired in series after the master volume. This was a cost-saving maneuver as it reduces the number of VCA circuits, versus having fully-independent main-output and headphone levels. The Sub Phatty retails for a decent amount less than the Little Phatty, and this difference in the output section is a part of that cost/value equation.

Thanks Amos, I appreciate that. All the other synths I've had either had independent controls or one for both.

It's not deal breaker as I'm finding more and more that I'm listening via my audio interface anyway. It's just something that came up as I've been trying out each firmware update.

Amos wrote: SysEx Librarian

DUBMCT wrote:Sysex worked like a charm, and the update sounds great, the NOISE is awesome now.

Amos wrote:only the response curve of the mixer volume pots is changed.
however, the new volume curve makes the noise more usable, because it doesn't start to overdrive until a higher level now.
overdrive sounds great on oscillators, not as good on the noise.

nofuturenocore wrote:So there is still this problem about Filter and Amp Multitrigger and Reset which refuse to work correctly ( The SubP ignore changes from active to inactive , sometimes a initialize preset can fix this but not always) and sometimes the SubP refuse to accept higher note, only accept lower.