PolyVoyager wanted!

taschenmusikant · Post by **taschenmusikant** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:01 pm

Does anybody know if Moog is planning a polyphonic synth in future?
I wanted to spend some money for a SE Omega /Code but rather would prefer to buy a moog for chords beside my voyager.

Fogflip · Post by **Fogflip** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:23 pm

I wouldn't count on it. this has been discussed in multiple forums multiple times. if you really want poly on a moog and esp in a voyager setting by more voyagers and midi them together.

ikazlar · Post by **ikazlar** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:59 am

taschenmusikant wrote:Does anybody know if Moog is planning a polyphonic synth in future?
I wanted to spend some money for a SE Omega /Code but rather would prefer to buy a moog for chords beside my voyager.

I hear you. Invest on an Eventide H-8000 FW and use the multi-shifter which works wonders on monophonic sources. You can do up to 5 harmonizations thus, i.e. you get a 5-note chord. Instant poly-heaven!

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:27 am

cool tip, Izk

Do you use it?

I mean, is the eventide strong enough to gobble a minimoog input and spit a nice-sounding string pad or brass sforzando,

or does it work just for weird effects?

At 5 grands, it costs like 3 Prophets, or 2 well serviced polymoogs, so...

In the meantime I'll try that with the cheap Digitech I use for vocals.

ikazlar · Post by **ikazlar** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:32 am

ozy wrote:cool tip, Izk

Do you use it?

I mean, is the eventide strong enough to gobble a minimoog input and spit a nice-sounding string pad or brass sforzando,

or does it work just for weird effects?

At 5 grands, it costs like 3 Prophets, or 2 well serviced polymoogs, so...

In the meantime I'll try that with the cheap Digitech I use for vocals.

The converters in the H-8000 FW have huge headroom.

There is an mp3 demo in Eventide's site, where at 07:30 this particular algorithm is used. In the demo Mathias doesn't use a Minimoog but you can get an idea of what it can do.

And there's always the possibility to tweak as much as you like.

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:58 am

sounds huge.

Still, 5x10square2 is enough for one solina + SOME phase shifter pedals + 1 prophet 08 and one good conditions OB

I think there's cheaper ways to get a lush stringpad

Impressive effects though: the final voice processing example is definitely nice.

r05c03 · Post by **r05c03** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:53 am

Wow, 5 grand. Anything cheaper that can do something similar?

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:38 pm

r05c03 wrote:Wow, 5 grand. Anything cheaper that can do something similar?

at this point (indeed, already at the "eventide" point - but putting a minimoog thropugh acheap harmonizer is definitely beyond the tipping point):

why not just buying a digital synth, in which polyphony-per-buck is never an issue?

Any analog synth "polyphonysed" [oops, there's "phony" in "polyphonysed"...] through a digital pitch shifter becomes a digital synth, or at best a hybrid one.

It may be cool, and sound good, but why then keeping the "analog" premise?

r05c03 · Post by **r05c03** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:06 am

just asking, thanks.

MC · Post by MC » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:19 pm

A monophonic through a harmonizer is NOT a proper polyphonic.

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:56 am

MC wrote:A monophonic through a harmonizer is NOT a proper polyphonic.

uh.

it's not polyphonic,

and it's not analog,

much less it sopunds like a moog.

But all this futile discussion was born because nobody wants to admit that,

if the purpose is getting a nice pad or brass hit,

a cheap DSI Tetr4 will do the job for just 800 bucks,

and a matrix 1000 for a quarter of that.

The rest is up to insipiration (50%) and perspiration (the remaining 90%, according to the yogi berra recipe), not knobs or bucks.

But... not a chance of common sense filtering into gear-lust

spittingoutteeth · Post by **spittingoutteeth** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:48 am

While it absolutely isn't the same thing as a polyphonic analog by any stretch, you can still get some great sounds using a monophonic synth + harmonizer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhD4nSw-PS4

Might not be of interest to the analog-or-nothing purist types, but for those just looking to expand the range of sounds without making a huge investment, it's a good option.

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 pm

this could go on forever.

I miss the "less money" part of the "mono+harmonizer" solution to analog polyphony

+ sh 101 = 700/750 eur
+ pitch factor = 500 eur
= 1200/1250 eur

on the other hand,

tetr4, 4 arpeggiators, 4 sequencers, 4 true analog voices = 700 eur

-700
+1200
= 500 eur in your bank, which you could spend on improving the quality of your food intake, sharing it with a nice girl,

then improving your inspiration (and hopefully some perspiration as well

)

psicolor · Post by **psicolor** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:18 pm

The tetr4 doesn't look as sexy as a sh101!

With a SH 101 you are always the hero on stage. How do you want to rock your ass off with a tetr4?

Some girls told me that keyboarders are the least desirable band members, because they always appear like computer nerds. So trying to look more "human" should be importand for all synthesizer players.

Carey M · Post by **Carey M** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:16 pm

psicolor wrote:Some girls told me that keyboarders are the least desirable band members, because they always appear like computer nerds. So trying to look more "human" should be importand for all synthesizer players.

Whaaat?

- CM

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