Voyager Arpeggio?

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:01 am

I'm planning on getting the Voyager Fire and discovered Voyagers don't have arpeggio.

Does it even need it?

latigid on · Post by **latigid on** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:18 am

Do you have a sequencer? Or a keyboard that can send MIDI arps?

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:29 am

Yes, but I was hoping for something like the LP Stage II has.

Post by **moogmusic** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:52 am

Check this out...

We just posted a new video to the Moog YouTube Channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W868tnYADDk

It shows how to use an MF-101 and a Voyager (and more) for a new (old) way of creating tempo-synced modulations in a Dance Music setting.

Enjoy...

The Moog Team

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Sat May 30, 2009 9:53 pm

I'm going to get the MF-101.

Is there another main pedal you'd recommend for the Voyager?

I make breakbeat industrial music, so I'd like it to be geared towards that.

Voltor07 · Post by **Voltor07** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:14 pm

CP-251 is a must have, if you can't afford an MP-201, which has most of the CP functions, as well as four LFO's. Always useful for CV control. Also, VX-351/352. I'd also recommend the MF-102 Ring Mod, but get the control devices first.

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Sun May 31, 2009 3:14 am

Can the MP-201 convert MIDI to CV?

January Jaunt · Post by **January Jaunt** » Sun May 31, 2009 4:29 am

Or you could get the MFB Step 64 Sequencer. It quite cheap.

Try the link:
http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikel ... tep64.html

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Sun May 31, 2009 4:38 am

Interesting, thanks for the link.

What I'm really after here is a way to arpeggio control the Voyager so it stays in perfect sync. A rhythmic groove lock that keeps things tight and lively.

I've noticed with MIDI arpeggiators and analog gear things tend to drift. I've heard CV is the way to do things properly with the Voyager.

I already have a few MIDI arpeggiators and sequencers on my computer. I'm not looking for another MIDI sequencer.

Voltor07 · Post by **Voltor07** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:22 am

Subtronik wrote:Interesting, thanks for the link.

What I'm really after here is a way to arpeggio control the Voyager so it stays in perfect sync. A rhythmic groove lock that keeps things tight and lively.

I've noticed with MIDI arpeggiators and analog gear things tend to drift. I've heard CV is the way to do things properly with the Voyager.

I already have a few MIDI arpeggiators and sequencers on my computer. I'm not looking for another MIDI sequencer.

If a CV sequencer is what you're after, may I suggest the Synths.com Q119? Out of your price range, perhaps? May I also suggest the Voice of Saturn. The completed kit is on backorder, but if you work well with a Weller, building one shouldn't be a huge undertaking. FWIW, the arp on the LP isn't all it's cracked up to be, IMHO.

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Sun May 31, 2009 12:34 pm

Thanks for the info Voltor.

The Q119 looks good, maybe I can find one on ebay for cheaper than $560.

I just read this thread about this same sequencer:

Still need a sequencer

Btw, does anyone know why exactly CV sequencing works better than MIDI?

rodion · Post by **rodion** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:00 am

cv sequencers are nice and inspiring musical instruments, much more than modern midi arpeggiators or sequencers. moog, korg, arp sequencers, they're better because they're designed to offer you many more ways of experimenting and making music flow. you can turn sequencer knobs while the sequence is running and you'll always come out with interesting and unexpected results.

that said, I found a nice and not so expensive way to make nice sounding arpeggios and sequences out of all of my vintage and cv gear (including my voyager OS):
I bought a couple of doepfer mcv4 midi to cv boxes: they cost about 100€ and they convert your incoming midi messages in a gate signal + 4 separate cv signals. it means that you can automate your note triggering, their pitch and 3 other cv controlled parameters (eg cutoff, waveform and resonance on your voyager). then you can use any synth with a midi out sending arpeggio data (I use my microkorg XL, waldorf pulse or waldorf Q). or you can use software step sequencers, like the one in cubase sx. the doepfer box converts the midi arpeggio and sequencer data into gate and cv values and voilà, you have rock-solid timing arpeggios. but it might take a bit of time and patience to calibrate the mcv4 with your analog gear.

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:25 pm

Nice, exactly the information I was looking for, thanks.

I was going to settle for just the usual computer driven MIDI control, but this converter sounds better for timing.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:08 am

Subtronik wrote:I'm planning on getting the Voyager Fire and discovered Voyagers don't have arpeggio.

I've never thought it needed one.Why not just play arpeggio patterns ?

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:33 pm

Because I want to have both hands free for knob tweaking.

Problem is there can be timing issues with external controllers and I want my sequences to play out perfect while I edit sounds.

That's how I edited Little Phatty sounds, in arp latch mode.

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