Voyager release problem

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:17 am

When I have my Voyager RME V3.4 connected to one of my sequencers (Sequentix P3 and AKai MPC60) the release parameter gets switched off everytime I hit stop.
I can press play and then either adjust the release knobs or change "release function" in the panel menu and things will be back to normal until I next stop the sequencer.
Is anyone else having similar issues ?
I emailed Moog tech support last week and still haven't received a reply.

Laters,
Acid Mitch

RL · Post by RL » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:36 am

Acid Mitch wrote:When I have my Voyager RME V3.4 connected to one of my sequencers (Sequentix P3 and AKai MPC60) the release parameter gets switched off everytime I hit stop.
I can press play and then either adjust the release knobs or change "release function" in the panel menu and things will be back to normal until I next stop the sequencer.
Is anyone else having similar issues ?
I emailed Moog tech support last week and still haven't received a reply.

Laters,
Acid Mitch

Hi,
this problem has nothing to do with the RME. When your sequencer sends a release off message after stop then the RME switches off the release.
Rudi

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:43 am

RL wrote: Hi,
this problem has nothing to do with the RME. When your sequencer sends a release off message after stop then the RME switches off the release.
Rudi

Hi Rudi,
I have looked at the MIDI 1.0 Specification and there is no "release off" message.
My sequencer sends an "all notes off" message when I hit stop. Is that what you mean by "release off" ?

According to the MIDI spec "all notes off" is intended to kill any hanging notes caused by missed note off messages. It should not change envelope(or any other) parameters.

All this has got me thinking, what is the intended use of the Release on/off switch on the Voyager ?
Is turning the switch off any different from setting the release knob to 0 ?

RL · Post by RL » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:28 am

Acid Mitch wrote:
RL wrote: Hi,
this problem has nothing to do with the RME. When your sequencer sends a release off message after stop then the RME switches off the release.
Rudi
Hi Rudi,
I have looked at the MIDI 1.0 Specification and there is no "release off" message.
My sequencer sends an "all notes off" message when I hit stop. Is that what you mean by "release off" ?

According to the MIDI spec "all notes off" is intended to kill any hanging notes caused by missed note off messages. It should not change envelope(or any other) parameters.

All this has got me thinking, what is the intended use of the Release on/off switch on the Voyager ?
Is turning the switch off any different from setting the release knob to 0 ?

Hi Acid Mitch,
"all notes off" doesn't affect the release. Maybe your sequencer sends one of the controller numbers ( #64, #66 or #88 ) which can affect the release.
Have fun,
Rudi

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:52 pm

Thanks for your help Rudi.

After further testing I have found that while my P3 only sends "All Notes Off" when I hit stop, the MPC60 also sends a "sustain pedal off" message (cc64,value 0).
I can't seem to find a way to get the MPC60 to not send cc64 when I hit stop.
Is it possible to make the Voyager ignore this message ?

RL · Post by RL » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:13 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:Thanks for your help Rudi.
After further testing I have found that while my P3 only sends "All Notes Off" when I hit stop, the MPC60 also sends a "sustain pedal off" message (cc64,value 0).
I can't seem to find a way to get the MPC60 to not send cc64 when I hit stop.
Is it possible to make the Voyager ignore this message ?

The OS 3.5 will get different MIDI controller on/off functions - then it's possible to switch off foot controllers, switches or pots.
Have fun,
Rudi

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:40 am

RL wrote: The OS 3.5 will get different MIDI controller on/off functions - then it's possible to switch off foot controllers, switches or pots.
Have fun,
Rudi

w00t!!!

That's great news.
I thought I was going to have to ditch the MPC but it looks like it can stay.

Are there any other additional features planned for OS 3.5 ?

RL · Post by RL » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:45 am

Acid Mitch wrote:Are there any other additional features planned for OS 3.5 ?

Sure

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:36 pm

RL wrote:
Acid Mitch wrote:Are there any other additional features planned for OS 3.5 ?
Sure

Good. Just checking.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:44 am

RL wrote:
Acid Mitch wrote:Thanks for your help Rudi.
After further testing I have found that while my P3 only sends "All Notes Off" when I hit stop, the MPC60 also sends a "sustain pedal off" message (cc64,value 0).
I can't seem to find a way to get the MPC60 to not send cc64 when I hit stop.
Is it possible to make the Voyager ignore this message ?
The OS 3.5 will get different MIDI controller on/off functions - then it's possible to switch off foot controllers, switches or pots.
Have fun,
Rudi

So , did these features ever get added ?
I can't find them in os 3.5.

RL · Post by RL » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:10 am

Hi Acid Mitch,
not yet, sorry.
Have fun,
Rudi

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