Model D Reissue Noise Level
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
Gladmarr wrote:As it turns out.....
Is that the noise level trim-pot on reissue? If so what level was yours set at and how much higher can it go? I feel like the noise levels are WAY too low to be useful for me. I cannot get enough overall volume out of my Minimoog if I keep the 3 oscillators low enough to hear the noise turned up at full volume. The noise function is basically unusable for my playing because of this.
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
I just opened mine up to have a look ( with some help from John Updike ) here are a couple pics:
the noise trim pot is on the 2nd board, behind the one on the left
it's pretty easy to adjust
turning the trim pot *counterclockwise* increases the noise level. I turned mine clockwise and put the thing back together before I tested it, not realizing I had turned the noise to the minimum
the noise trim pot is on the 2nd board, behind the one on the left
it's pretty easy to adjust
turning the trim pot *counterclockwise* increases the noise level. I turned mine clockwise and put the thing back together before I tested it, not realizing I had turned the noise to the minimum
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
I guess I should have recorded a before clip, but here is a sample of the noise level trim at max
1. I started with white noise, brought in OSC1 square wave to full volume, then changed to pink noise & did it again
2. did a couple swells with just noise: white & pink
3. after that I changed OSC1 to sine, and repeated #1
https://soundcloud.com/user-912416213/d-noise
ps cutoff freq was @max, filter emphasis @min
1. I started with white noise, brought in OSC1 square wave to full volume, then changed to pink noise & did it again
2. did a couple swells with just noise: white & pink
3. after that I changed OSC1 to sine, and repeated #1
https://soundcloud.com/user-912416213/d-noise
ps cutoff freq was @max, filter emphasis @min
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
ummagumma wrote:I just opened mine up to have a look ( with some help from John Updike ) here are a couple pics:
the noise trim pot is on the 2nd board, behind the one on the left
it's pretty easy to adjust
turning the trim pot *counterclockwise* increases the noise level. I turned mine clockwise and put the thing back together before I tested it, not realizing I had turned the noise to the minimum
I really need to do this BUT am a little nervous. Was it Moog support that helped you? Also just to be totally clear did you choose to turn it up to full volume?
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
ah....no John Updike the author ( RIP ) helped me out, by holding up the base of the chassis.
See? he's in the pic, admiring the through hole construction
I carefully removed the back panel ( there are 18 screws holding it on ) and then, with the chassis propped up at a right angle ( thanks John! ), I removed the 4 screws holding the left board on. there is a ribbon cable at the bottom, and the board will tilt outward exposing the 2nd board.
there are 2 teflon washers on the top screws, don't lose them if they fall off
I did turn the noise trimpot all the way up. But I didn't record a sample before I did this, not sure how much louder it is now? it is definitely louder than it was, when the front panel dial is at 10. ( At 0 there is still no noise )
See? he's in the pic, admiring the through hole construction
I carefully removed the back panel ( there are 18 screws holding it on ) and then, with the chassis propped up at a right angle ( thanks John! ), I removed the 4 screws holding the left board on. there is a ribbon cable at the bottom, and the board will tilt outward exposing the 2nd board.
there are 2 teflon washers on the top screws, don't lose them if they fall off
I did turn the noise trimpot all the way up. But I didn't record a sample before I did this, not sure how much louder it is now? it is definitely louder than it was, when the front panel dial is at 10. ( At 0 there is still no noise )
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
ummagumma wrote:ah....no John Updike the author ( RIP ) helped me out, by holding up the base of the chassis.
See? he's in the pic, admiring the through hole construction
I carefully removed the back panel ( there are 18 screws holding it on ) and then, with the chassis propped up at a right angle ( thanks John! ), I removed the 4 screws holding the left board on. there is a ribbon cable at the bottom, and the board will tilt outward exposing the 2nd board.
there are 2 teflon washers on the top screws, don't lose them if they fall off
I did turn the noise trimpot all the way up. But I didn't record a sample before I did this, not sure how much louder it is now? it is definitely louder than it was, when the front panel dial is at 10. ( At 0 there is still no noise )
That is great man. I am slow on the uptake. I'm going to do it this weekend hopefully. I have other noise sources but it was disappointing to not be able to use the Minimoogs for sound effects. Now I will be able to.
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
cool! let us know how it works out for you?
I have never used a vintage one, am curious how it compares
I suppose if we had to, we could adjust the circuit to supply even more noise
good luck!!
I have never used a vintage one, am curious how it compares
I suppose if we had to, we could adjust the circuit to supply even more noise
good luck!!
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
FYI I was messing around with it today, here is another noise level sample with all 3 osc on full
https://soundcloud.com/vogon_dreams/d-noise2
so it's definitely audible above the osc's now!
https://soundcloud.com/vogon_dreams/d-noise2
so it's definitely audible above the osc's now!
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
Dude that is so badass. I cant wait but am a little intimidated by taking mine apart.ummagumma wrote:FYI I was messing around with it today, here is another noise level sample with all 3 osc on full
https://soundcloud.com/vogon_dreams/d-noise2
so it's definitely audible above the osc's now!
Re: Model D Reissue Noise Level
haha, thanks!
I was just screwing around, really. I think I switched from white/pink in there somewhere
ps how is it you use the noise, when you are playing? as a mod source as well as audio? or just mod?
I was just screwing around, really. I think I switched from white/pink in there somewhere
ps how is it you use the noise, when you are playing? as a mod source as well as audio? or just mod?