Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

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Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by nickgem » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:13 pm

Is there a way to disconnect keyboard control from OSC2 to drone it like OSC3?

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by GregAE » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:48 am

Sorry, NIck, it can't be done. Osc1 & 2 are hardwired internally to the keyboard CV and, unlike Osc3, cannot be disconnected from that source.

But your question makes me curious as to why you'd want to do that.

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by nickgem » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:57 am

Hey,
Thanks Greg, I had a cool patch on arturia mini v that I was trying to copy and got stuck on this..it's sort of a droning bagpipe sound.
If I turn osc2 off it gets me part the way there.
Nick

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by _DemonDan_ » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:56 pm

nickgem wrote:Is there a way to disconnect keyboard control from OSC2 to drone it like OSC3?
GregAE wrote:...But your question makes me curious as to why you'd want to do that.
Just a guess, but it would have allowed a power 5th drone that could be jammed over with OSC1.
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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by stewthom » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:19 pm

Could the same (or very similar) function be created using a Freq Box's oscillator?

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by _DemonDan_ » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:31 pm

Totally!
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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by nickgem » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:55 pm

GregAE wrote:Sorry, NIck, it can't be done. Osc1 & 2 are hardwired internally to the keyboard CV and, unlike Osc3, cannot be disconnected from that source.

But your question makes me curious as to why you'd want to do that.

'Sup?

- Greg
Hey Greg, Thanks. I was trying to replicate a patch of a moog vst I have, which allows osc2 and osc3 to drone while the osc1 is connected to the keyboard which produced a really cool droning bagpipe sound.

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by nickgem » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:57 pm

_DemonDan_ wrote:
nickgem wrote:Is there a way to disconnect keyboard control from OSC2 to drone it like OSC3?
GregAE wrote:...But your question makes me curious as to why you'd want to do that.
Just a guess, but it would have allowed a power 5th drone that could be jammed over with OSC1.

Yes your right, OSC2 is set to 0 and OSC3 is set to 7 semitones.

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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by ColorForm2113 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:38 pm

Do you have an external cv keyboard or midi to cv converter?
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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by JoshInTheBox » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:06 am

Drone osc 1&2. Control osc 3 with pitch cv into the mod2. Patch to osc 3 with a mod bus. You'll just need another cv source for the osc 3 pitch. A little workaround, but more flexible. I verified that this works on my xl. I ran the cv through am attenuator to scale the voltage appropriately.
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Re: Can Osc 2 be droned like Osc 3?

Post by GregAE » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:46 am

nickgem wrote:
GregAE wrote:Sorry, NIck, it can't be done. Osc1 & 2 are hardwired internally to the keyboard CV and, unlike Osc3, cannot be disconnected from that source.

But your question makes me curious as to why you'd want to do that.

'Sup?

- Greg
Hey Greg, Thanks. I was trying to replicate a patch of a moog vst I have, which allows osc2 and osc3 to drone while the osc1 is connected to the keyboard which produced a really cool droning bagpipe sound.
Nick - Check out my Voyager tip on creating drones here:

http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23002

EDIT: For drones using the 'Out Of The Box' technique, run OSC3 through a pitch shifter set to a fourth or fifth, and set to a 50/50 balance. Or, if the pitch shifter offers separate outputs you could apply separate effects to each output and then pan hard left/hard right for a primo stereo effect.

- Greg

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