Request for new OS

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Request for new OS

Post by ikazlar » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:45 am

I think it's about time we had a new OS with features such as:

1. In the Pot Mapping, a variable amount from 0 - 100% and not just the fixed values 0, 25, 50, 100
2. Separate PWM per VCO (I don't think it's possible - but it never hurts to ask).
3. A "Shift" function to fine-tune the VCOs.
4. A new bank of sounds.

Share here what would like to have.
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by Sofine » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:00 am

An arpeggiator and/or step sequencer would be yummy

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Re: Request for new OS

Post by ikazlar » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:32 am

Yes, an arpeggiator (even a simple one) is sorely missed.
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:41 pm

Sofine wrote:An arpeggiator and/or step sequencer would be yummy
not enough room in the software apparently.Amos addressed this awhile ago.
ikazlar wrote:I think it's about time we had a new OS with features such as:

1. In the Pot Mapping, a variable amount from 0 - 100% and not just the fixed values 0, 25, 50, 100
2. Separate PWM per VCO (I don't think it's possible - but it never hurts to ask).
3. A "Shift" function to fine-tune the VCOs.
4. A new bank of sounds.

Share here what would like to have.
I actually came on here too post a question about the pot mapping. I would be happy even to have 75% available but variable would obviously be top choice

I have talked to moog techs a couple of times about having waveform modulation " kill switches" installed. so you could use vco 3 in low mode to give modulation to two vco waveforms without affecting it's own.... but I never heard back after that first conversation. in all fairness in the coming weeks they had pretty major announcements so I understand they were very busy with other things.

fine tune would also be pretty sweet
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by GregAE » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:56 am

ikazlar wrote:I think it's about time we had a new OS with features such as:

1. In the Pot Mapping, a variable amount from 0 - 100% and not just the fixed values 0, 25, 50, 100
2. Separate PWM per VCO (I don't think it's possible - but it never hurts to ask).
3. A "Shift" function to fine-tune the VCOs.
4. A new bank of sounds.

Share here what would like to have.

Regarding #1, my "Pot Mapping" document addresses this on page 3:

Rudi Linhard, the Voyager’s software programmer, explains why only four Amount values are offered (Off, Quarter, Half, or
Full) instead of continuous values: “A calculation by 2 is much easier and faster for a microprocessor than 33 or 91. The
Voyager's processor has to calculate four pot values all the time, and (having to calculate) a continuous value from 1% to
100% would (dramatically) reduce the (Voyager’s) response time.”

Regarding #4, KnobTweak already has enough Voyager patches to easily fill another bank of sounds. Come get 'em!

- Greg

BTW - A fine tune WOULD be a pretty sweet addition!

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Re: Request for new OS

Post by thealien666 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:18 pm

The real question is, wouldn't it be about time the CPU board of the now 14 years old Voyager (the design) be upgraded (once more) with a faster processor, and more memory, to accommodate new features (sold as an additional option) ? This board is easily user replaceable, or it could be installed by Moog at a fee (with extended warranty included)?
That could be a new source of revenues for Moog Music, and a great opportunity for existing Voyager owners around the world (there must be many thousands of them by now?) to upgrade their beloved Moog synth ?

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Re: Request for new OS

Post by ColorForm2113 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:39 pm

thealien666 wrote:The real question is, wouldn't it be about time the CPU board of the now 14 years old Voyager (the design) be upgraded (once more) with a faster processor, and more memory, to accommodate new features (sold as an additional option) ? This board is easily user replaceable, or it could be installed by Moog at a fee (with extended warranty included)?
That could be a new source of revenues for Moog Music, and a great opportunity for existing Voyager owners around the world (there must be many thousands of them by now?) to upgrade their beloved Moog synth ?

'Just saying...
I would drop some cash for that!
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by MC » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:23 pm

thealien666 wrote:The real question is, wouldn't it be about time the CPU board of the now 14 years old Voyager (the design) be upgraded (once more) with a faster processor, and more memory, to accommodate new features (sold as an additional option) ? This board is easily user replaceable, or it could be installed by Moog at a fee (with extended warranty included)?
That could be a new source of revenues for Moog Music, and a great opportunity for existing Voyager owners around the world (there must be many thousands of them by now?) to upgrade their beloved Moog synth ?

'Just saying...
That would require a complete rewrite of the OS. The Voyager OS was written in assembly and is 0% portable to a modern CPU. Then you'd have a pile of regression testing. Pretty big effort.
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by ColorForm2113 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:37 pm

I think in the near future we will see the voyager get discontinued, but probably not until they have another semi modular super synth lined up
My modular so far: Q104, Q106 x2, Q107, Q108, Q109 x2 , Q116, Q118, Q127 w/Q140, Q130, STG Wave Folder, Mixer and Mankato playing with Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251, MF-104M x2 ( STEREO!) Volca Beats and Bass, Arturia Beat step

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Re: Request for new OS

Post by MC » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:46 pm

ColorForm2113 wrote:I think in the near future we will see the voyager get discontinued, but probably not until they have another semi modular super synth lined up
The Voyager won't be discontinued until they issue the Steampunk Voyager, the Marble Countertop Voyager, the Hello Kitty Voyager...
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by ColorForm2113 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:56 pm

MC wrote:
ColorForm2113 wrote:I think in the near future we will see the voyager get discontinued, but probably not until they have another semi modular super synth lined up
The Voyager won't be discontinued until they issue the Steampunk Voyager, the Marble Countertop Voyager, the Hello Kitty Voyager...
HAHAHA my wife would love a hello kitty voyager!
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by Just Me » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:13 pm

I'd buy a Hello Kitty or Ghost in the Shell Voyager faceplate!
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by thealien666 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:41 pm

MC wrote:
thealien666 wrote:The real question is, wouldn't it be about time the CPU board of the now 14 years old Voyager (the design) be upgraded (once more) with a faster processor, and more memory, to accommodate new features (sold as an additional option) ? This board is easily user replaceable, or it could be installed by Moog at a fee (with extended warranty included)?
That could be a new source of revenues for Moog Music, and a great opportunity for existing Voyager owners around the world (there must be many thousands of them by now?) to upgrade their beloved Moog synth ?

'Just saying...
That would require a complete rewrite of the OS. The Voyager OS was written in assembly and is 0% portable to a modern CPU. Then you'd have a pile of regression testing. Pretty big effort.
Not necessarily. With today's programming tools, I'm sure Rudi could recompile the source code for other more modern and powerful processors, while adding extra features.
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by bichuelo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:07 pm

MC wrote:
ColorForm2113 wrote:I think in the near future we will see the voyager get discontinued, but probably not until they have another semi modular super synth lined up
The Voyager won't be discontinued until they issue the Steampunk Voyager, the Marble Countertop Voyager, the Hello Kitty Voyager...
The Schroeder Voyager?
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Re: Request for new OS

Post by bichuelo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 pm

Regarding the OS, Rudi must be working on it since there is at least one bug reported: http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.ph ... t+velocity
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